On 10/16/2023 at 7:02 PM, abennett said:

I just wish MSFS had better clouds. They look awful a lot of the time. 

I mean, look at this, terrible.

https://ibb.co/MBFrnGF

I hardly ever see clouds that look like that in live weather anymore.

Took these cloud pictures in the Beta last night

Edited November 15, 20232 yr by Tuskin38

With Xbox release(su 5) all weather rendering was destroyed, sad but true. 

6 hours ago, Krakin said:

I hardly ever see clouds that look like that in live weather anymore.

Blimey, I do. I’m looking at some right now over PAPG.

4 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Took these cloud pictures in the Beta last night

Perhaps those clouds look "OK" from a distance, but there is a real problem with all of the clouds in MSFS - they are no longer volumetric (and haven't been for quite some time). Try flying into those clouds and you'll notice that they just "disintegrate" all around you like cotton candy. When MSFS released, there were actual volumetric clouds that once you entered the cloud, it really felt like you were entering a cloud - visibility went to zero (as it should) and exiting a cloud gave a real sense of speed. Overcast is the same way, you *never* fly into or out of a true overcast layer anymore, if there is one it is always this gradual visibility reduction then all of the sudden you can see the sky with a white layer below. Absolutely no sense of speed or loss of true visibility. They have since made all live weather clouds just a transparent "puff" of light fog.

And I do not think it has anything to do with performance or x-box anymore, I think it has to do with too many people complaining they cannot see the Bing-earth simulator below. Thus, this became a Bing-Earth simulator with puffy/transparent puffs all over where clouds "should" be.

Or.. maybe it is a bug (clouds are not volumetric anymore) - but like many bugs it will likely never get fixed. I've been watching (and testing) the other simulator and they are slowly but positively improving their clouds.

1 hour ago, KERNEL32 said:

ry flying into those clouds and you'll notice that they just "disintegrate" all around you like cotton candy.

They're still volumetric. They're not as thick on the inside as they used to be years ago, but they're not transparent. I've never seen what you've described even before this beta.

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by Tuskin38

6 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Took these cloud pictures in the Beta last night

Are airport weather "bubbles" still there?

20 minutes ago, Vitold69 said:

Are airport weather "bubbles" still there?

I haven't noticed.

5 hours ago, Vitold69 said:

 

wrong post

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by MarcG

I actually ran into clouds that actually obscured my aircraft for the first time in years. Live weather, east of RJAA between 14,000 to 20,000. So the sim can still render them.

 

 

Edited November 17, 20232 yr by Tuskin38

On 11/16/2023 at 10:09 AM, Vitold69 said:

Are airport weather "bubbles" still there?

Yes

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

I actually ran into clouds that actually obscured my aircraft for the first time in years. Live weather, east of RJAA between 14,000 to 20,000. So the sim can still render them.

Going by some of the addon and original presets, the rendering hasn’t changed, and the engine is still more than capable of excellent results.

Something about the way live weather drives the cloud rendering after SU5 is much less realistic (not talking placement, before anyone jumps on that). It has been improved slightly since the sheer horror of SU5, but still not a patch on what we had at launch.