This is hot release for AMD gpu users. Interesting that sid had to set up an AMD machine just to deal with AMD gpu bugs.

blue halo around evening sun corona seems fixed?

On 8/18/2023 at 11:18 PM, mjrhealth said:

Interesting that sid had to set up an AMD machine just to deal with AMD gpu bugs.

Are you a software developer if you speak about things that you're obviously not familiar with?

35 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

Are you a software developer if you speak about things that you're obviously not familiar with?

I’m a software developer. And yes, Sid set up an AMD box to deal with AMD bugs. Regardless, you don’t have to be a software developer to read statements from people like Sid. 

3 hours ago, GoranM said:

I’m a software developer. And yes, Sid set up an AMD box to deal with AMD bugs. Regardless, you don’t have to be a software developer to read statements from people like Sid. 

He knows why I quoted him. I don't know why it's so amazing to set up a specific rig for hardware that you support, it's called software testing...

59 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

I don't know why it's so amazing to set up a specific rig for hardware that you support, it's called software testing...

Who said it was "amazing"??

I think it shows Sid and Ben are extremely proactive, and dedicated to getting bugs sorted, where the fault lies with someone else.

Contrary to what some people, who have no idea how coding works, they can't code around AMD's bugs.  

Maybe that's why you should refrain from posting about things you are not familiar with.

AMD have been difficult to work with, for years.  Sid and Ben at Laminar are very well known to the folks at AMD.

Edited August 20, 20232 yr by GoranM

3 hours ago, GoranM said:

Who said it was "amazing"??

I think it shows Sid and Ben are extremely proactive, and dedicated to getting bugs sorted, where the fault lies with someone else.

Contrary to what some people, who have no idea how coding works, they can't code around AMD's bugs.  

Maybe that's why you should refrain from posting about things you are not familiar with.

AMD have been difficult to work with, for years.  Sid and Ben at Laminar are very well known to the folks at AMD.

What I'm familiar with is that x-plane is the only game that I've seen struggling on AMD hardware. This should raise some questions.

On 8/18/2023 at 10:18 AM, mjrhealth said:

This is hot release for AMD gpu users. Interesting that sid had to set up an AMD machine just to deal with AMD gpu bugs.

How the hell ELSE did he think he was going to "deal with it"...?

4 hours ago, GoranM said:

I think it shows Sid and Ben are extremely proactive, and dedicated to getting bugs sorted, where the fault lies with someone else.

Contrary to what some people, who have no idea how coding works, they can't code around AMD's bugs.  

Maybe that's why you should refrain from posting about things you are not familiar with.

AMD have been difficult to work with, for years.  Sid and Ben at Laminar are very well known to the folks at AMD.

If you don't have rigs to test your architecture-specific code, you're doing it wrong.

48 minutes ago, bogdansrb said:

What I'm familiar with is that x-plane is the only game that I've seen struggling on AMD hardware. This should raise some questions.

Hi,

I can attest to this! I have the ability to run MS2020 utilizing SEVEN screen. Three at 2K for my exterior visuals and four at 1366x768, while running MS2020 on the ultra setting. I have a difficult time running one computer with one monitor while using XP12. I get flickers and stutters.

When I run XP12, I have to run FIVE computers. One for each visual display, one for glass screens and one as the server and still have to deal with flickers.

When I run MS2020, I run two computers and the second computer only runs the two CDU screens.

Prior to LR few beta releases my setup ran like BUTTER! they did something on their end. That's the only reason I looked into MS2020, I couldn't get rid of the stutters/flickers.

My setup: Gigabyte X670E motherboard, Asus 4090 TUF video board, Samsung 2TB NVME 990 Pro, 64GB DDR5 @ 60000mhz.

If 2020 can run that smooth even while pulling data from the internet, XP12 should run like a polished telescope lens (that smooth) running one computer and one monitor.

Edited August 20, 20232 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

5 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

How the hell ELSE did he think he was going to "deal with it"...?

Oh just say its all misinformation and ignore every one. Really didnt require such a response. Was just making a statement as to what laminar will do to deal with issues

6 hours ago, bogdansrb said:

What I'm familiar with is that x-plane is the only game that I've seen struggling on AMD hardware. This should raise some questions.

Not in my AMD GPU ownership experience. If anything, LR is pushing the GFX industry forward a bit with their use of Zink.

Eliminating openGL from the system will only have benefits in the future. Very much not 'a few years behind'.

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Oh just say it’s all misinformation and ignore every one. Really didnt require such a response. Was just making a statement as to what laminar will do to deal with issues

Nah - this one’s definitely in my wheelhouse.
 

Can’t imagine not having a test bench to code against (I find it hard to believe they dont already. Maybe THAT is the “misinformation” to which you refer). 

I believe they mostly on macs, but than they do support windows, linux android.

16 hours ago, blingthinger said:

Not in my AMD GPU ownership experience. If anything, LR is pushing the GFX industry forward a bit with their use of Zink.

Eliminating openGL from the system will only have benefits in the future. Very much not 'a few years behind'.

I don't really agree with that. Vulkan - OpenGL bridging is very much a niche application and only present in X-Plane because there's no Vulkan API in the SDK (and there will not be one in the foreseeable future) and because completely broken OpenGL plugins are a guarantee for an unhappy user base. Laminar's lucky break is that XP is a bit of a big name lighthouse project for Zink and the developer is fairly keen to help making it work in that context. Zink's only remaining application would be running old games, which, again, is a niche application (and probably the prime reason why the project is funded by Valve). GFX industry standard, manpower and funding provided, would be a clean sheet engine or an off-the-shelf game engine like Unity adapted to flight simulation.

That said, the move to Vulkan was logical and absolutely right, if only for its platform compatibility.