2 hours ago, penta_a said:

I found today that if I move closer to Tobii sensing bar (attached to my monitor, just pulled monitor toward me) and stabilization improved greatly, I will do more testing but the result of this change was massive to me.

I have seen it mentioned, on the net, that the sweet spot is about 15" from the camera. Don't know I can't get that close with my desk/monitor location.. Mine is about 24" from me.

6 hours ago, Pivot said:

I have seen it mentioned, on the net, that the sweet spot is about 15" from the camera. Don't know I can't get that close with my desk/monitor location.. Mine is about 24" from me.

I agree it doesn't feel right, especially with ultra wide monitor, so I'm thinking of making a stand for Tobii bar closer to me and push monitor back.

9 hours ago, penta_a said:

I agree it doesn't feel right, especially with ultra wide monitor, so I'm thinking of making a stand for Tobii bar closer to me and push monitor back.

Not sure if you have seen this:

https://www.tobii.com/products/accessories/tripod-stand

24 minutes ago, TomCYYZ said:

Not sure if you have seen this:

https://www.tobii.com/products/accessories/tripod-stand

many thanks mate, that should do it.

37 minutes ago, penta_a said:

many thanks mate, that should do it.

Just so you know, that's more directed at commercial users and is $350. They now sell a $40 mount that screws onto any tripod.

Last year I purchased a little $10 tripod and a $13 magnet mount that the Tobii snaps to perfectly.

Tripod

Magnet mount

 

15 minutes ago, vrdubin6 said:

Just so you know, that's more directed at commercial users and is $350. They now sell a $40 mount that screws onto any tripod.

Last year I purchased a little $10 tripod and a $13 magnet mount that the Tobii snaps to perfectly.

Tripod

Magnet mount

 

for now I have a logitech speaker (center) that can tilt and swivel, it does a great job, I stuck Tobii bar on top of it with a double face tape, it is secured for now, buying a stand might be in the future if I have to.

thanks for your valuable input.

 

4 hours ago, vrdubin6 said:

Just so you know, that's more directed at commercial users and is $350. They now sell a $40 mount that screws onto any tripod.

Last year I purchased a little $10 tripod and a $13 magnet mount that the Tobii snaps to perfectly.

Tripod

Magnet mount

 

That's usefull information. Thanks for sharing it.
I know I am about to hijack @MrBitstFlyer's thread but hopefully no one will notice😉

I just received my Tobii Eye Tracker and before I mount it under my monitor I want to know whether it is easy to remove the mount afterwards or will I rip my monitor apart when doing so?
Since the distante between my monitor and my head is 90 cm / 35.5 inch I might have to skip the monitor mount altogether and follow @vrdubin6's excellent suggestion.

I am selling my Tobii Eye Tracker 5 for the following reasons.

1.  When off center the view moves constantly, regardless how I change the settings.  Operating buttons and knobs becomes impossible.

2.  When looking over the shoulder, the virtual head moves in the wrong direction.

Its tracking and build quality are great, as is not requiring a head mounted part.  I purchased it because I'm often in a bright room, one area where TrackIR has an issue.  However, Between the two TrackIR works better in MSFS for me.

 

On 10/2/2023 at 8:51 PM, MrBitstFlyer said:

I am selling my Tobii Eye Tracker 5 for the following reasons.

1.  When off center the view moves constantly, regardless how I change the settings.  Operating buttons and knobs becomes impossible.

2.  When looking over the shoulder, the virtual head moves in the wrong direction.

Its tracking and build quality are great, as is not requiring a head mounted part.  I purchased it because I'm often in a bright room, one area where TrackIR has an issue.  However, Between the two TrackIR works better in MSFS for me.

 

Update - I'm not selling the tobii Eyetracker 5!

I had some help with my issues on their discord server.  If anybody else sufferes from jerkiness off center, get a really cheap piece of software called FaceTrackNoir - only 4 UK pounds!  It takes over the face tracking which is now very steady indeed.  The app has many more tweak options including curve graphs for tuning the movements.

Very pleased with the Tobi now 🙂

25 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Update - I'm not selling the tobii Eyetracker 5!

I had some help with my issues on their discord server.  If anybody else sufferes from jerkiness off center, get a really cheap piece of software called FaceTrackNoir - only 4 UK pounds!  It takes over the face tracking which is now very steady indeed.  The app has many more tweak options including curve graphs for tuning the movements.

Very pleased with the Tobi now 🙂

Good stuff. I may go this route and see how it works. It just rubs me the wrong way that I spent ~$250 on the device and I need $4 third-party software to make it behave as it should. 

Not sure where the problem is here.

My Tobii worked fine out of the box under my 32 inch LG monitor.

Simhanger has an excellent youtube video to help set up the device if your having problems.

23 minutes ago, petejohno1 said:

Not sure where the problem is here.

My Tobii worked fine out of the box under my 32 inch LG monitor.

Simhanger has an excellent youtube video to help set up the device if your having problems.

I've been using my Tobii for over a year and it works fine but has a few limitations I dislike. Probably just personal preference from a decade with TrackIR and becoming used to its behavior.

• Very limited customization when it comes to behavior and curves.
• I personally also like the ability to pause the tracking at a viewpoint. If I lean in and look at a specific instrument it's nice to be able to pause the headtracking at that location and adjust knobs/dials. You stop Tobii head tracking in MSFS and it snaps back to the default cockpit viewpoint.
• As others have said, when looking at extreme angles and trying to hold your head still it will "shake" or just look unstable in-game. I have shared this with Tobii support and they told me it is a known issue, a software update would fix it eventually but to download FaceTrackNoIR as a solution. 

I honestly just downloaded FacetrackNoIR after a year of being stubborn.... holy word not allowed it is so much better now.  Tracking feels more accurate, smooth and stable. I can fine tune the curve for each axis. It has an option to "stay when off" so your view holds where you're looking when you pause tracking. 

 

Thanks @MrBitstFlyer for finally pushing me to bite the bullet and spend $4 lol.

4 hours ago, vrdubin6 said:

I personally also like the ability to pause the tracking at a viewpoint. If I lean in and look at a specific instrument it's nice to be able to pause the headtracking at that location and adjust knobs/dials. You stop Tobii head tracking in MSFS and it snaps back to the default cockpit viewpoint.

TrackIR is very stable for me so I never needed to pause it when zooming in on instruments. I have yet to break in my new Tobii so hopefully it is the same but from what I gleaned it is a bit less stable than TrackIR.
I still don't understand why Tobii does not have a pause function but that might be the result of the native support in MSFS. Good to know Facetracknoir solves these things although one would expect Tobii's own software should be able to do what Facetracknoir does.

8 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Update - I'm not selling the tobii Eyetracker 5!

I had some help with my issues on their discord server.  If anybody else sufferes from jerkiness off center, get a really cheap piece of software called FaceTrackNoir - only 4 UK pounds!  It takes over the face tracking which is now very steady indeed.  The app has many more tweak options including curve graphs for tuning the movements.

Very pleased with the Tobi now 🙂

Thanks for this!  I will get it as I face similar issues and I would like the pause function.

It also seems like a good cause listening to this guys story.  I hope it is alright to provide a link

https://www.facetracknoir.nl/home/default.htm

9 hours ago, vrdubin6 said:

Good stuff. I may go this route and see how it works. It just rubs me the wrong way that I spent ~$250 on the device and I need $4 third-party software to make it behave as it should. 

I did say on their discord I wasn't interested in buying additional software - at £300 it should work with the included software! However, when it was pointed out it was just £4 it changed my mind.