1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Here is an example of one of your antagonistic comments that start the ball rolling….. Lemmings? Really? Very mature. 

I am happy to see you at least being a great example of maturity.

4 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Yup, by people like you. 

If you go up in the thread you will start realising who popped in and turned the discussion into a negative touch. Needs a bit of reading and understanding. I know its hard.

10 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

I am happy to see you at least being a great example of maturity.

If you go up in the thread you will start realising who popped in and turned the discussion into a negative touch. Needs a bit of reading and understanding. I know its hard.

You know what, I’ll edit this out. It doesn’t really matter any more. Waste of space the Xplane forums at avsim .

Edited October 7, 20232 yr by Ianrivaldosmith
Toxic forums

2 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

And who was that then? You’re the one who started on about lemmings, not me. 
I merely pointed out that you can’t call someone wrong for expressing an opinion. Is that incorrect? No. 

What’s wrong with Lemmings? I loved that game! At the same time you were the one calling others delusional. Is that better?

So let me explain it to you: someone known for disliking XP made the following post:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/638292-coming-in-x-plane-1208-and-beyond-–-roadmap-update/?do=findComment&comment=5016680

He hinted at links that were full of negative reactions about XP’s price increase, mentionning it as « interesting discussion ». Interesting for him because its full of critics for XP. My comment was a reaction of this childish behaviour. Thats all.

Old wisdom: people will get back what they are spreading. As simple as that.

3 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

What’s wrong with Lemmings? I loved that game! At the same time you were the one calling others delusional. Is that better?

So let me explain it to you: someone known for disliking XP made the following post:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/638292-coming-in-x-plane-1208-and-beyond-–-roadmap-update/?do=findComment&comment=5016680

He hinted at links that were full of negative reactions about XP’s price increase, mentionning it as « interesting discussion ». Interesting for him because its full of critics for XP. My comment was a reaction of this childish behaviour. Thats all.

Old wisdom: people will get back what they are spreading. As simple as that.

He gave an opinion and you didn’t like it, so you gave your opinion(s). And of course his are wrong and yours are right. So in your opinion, he was being childish? So you responded by, being childish? Interesting. Certainly lived up to your last statement about old wisdom then. 

So let me explain it to you, opinions are like a** holes, everyone has one and they’re all full of S***

 

Edited October 7, 20232 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

7 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

He gave an opinion and you didn’t like it, so you gave your opinion(s). And of course his are wrong and yours are right.

So let me explain it to you, opinions are like a** holes, everyone has one and they’re all full of S***

 

Yes i think this is one of the main goals of discussion-forums. And it’s logical that not everyone has the same opinion. And like in every discussion, people having a point will explain why they disagree with someone else. Now, you are the one that obviously cannot deal with different opinions. Can I ask you: why is that? You made the exact same thing by calling someone dellusional because you didn’t agree with him. Double standards?

Edited October 7, 20232 yr by Franz007

10 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

Yes i think this is one of the main goals of discussion-forums. And it’s logical that not everyone has the same opinion. And like in every discussion, people having a point will explain why they disagree with someone else. Now, you are the one that obviously cannot deal with different opinions. Can I ask you: why is that? You made the exact same thing by calling someone dellusional because you didn’t agree with him. Double standards?

One of the main goals is to have a discussion, correct. To debate. Not to tell people they are wrong for sharing a different opinion than you. I can perfectly cope with other people’s opinions, you’re the one calling them lemmings because they use another sim of choice. 
And yes I called him delusional, not because I don’t agree or disagree with him, but because in my opinion, in terms of what he posts about X-plane and MSFS, he is delirious. 
 

Anyways, that’s my final Say on this matter. People in these forums need to stop the ‘my sim is better than your sim’ mentality. It’s like a school ground. 

 

Edited October 7, 20232 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

6 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

One of the main goals is to have a discussion, correct. To debate. Not to tell people they are wrong for sharing a different opinion than you. I can perfectly cope with other people’s opinions, you’re the one calling them lemmings because they use another sim of choice. 
And yes I called him delusional, not because I don’t agree or disagree with him, but because in my opinion, in terms of what he posts about X-plane and MSFS, he is delirious. 
 

Anyways, that’s my final Say on this matter. People in these forums need to stop the ‘my sim is better than your sim’ mentality. It’s like a school ground. 

 

Look, that’s why I simply cannot take you serious anymore. First, you are mixing up users. I never wrote that someone’s opinion was wrong. Or please quote me!

Then you attack me for a behaviour you dislike when you made the exact same thing by using « delusional » and « hahahaha » and try to minimise it now. Sorry, that’s beyond ridiculous.

Sorry but i think you didn’t really shine on that one. But we will let forum-users judge it by themselves, won’t we?

Anyone else really excited for Synthetic Vision?

Thats one of the few places I would say XP has always been weak in.

It was one of the very first dev interviews some time ago they talked about a new hire for avionics graphics, sounds like the first batch of new avionics visuals are very nearly ready to let lose. 

Anyone got any idea which if any default aircraft will be getting it or will we have to wait for 3rd parties to integrate it?

4 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Pssst. It’s people like you who scare other users away from the Xplane forums here. 
 

This place needs a major overhaul. 

Is that your opinion?  

Do you realize that many X-Plane users don't come here because of the constant negative comments about X-Plane from people who don't even use X-Plane, in the X-Plane forums here?  

Do you realize there are people outside of the X-Plane forums, who frequent the other section of avsim, that have a "NoXP" mark under their profile, due to their constant troublemaking?  What do you think that NoXP means?

Do you realize there is a dedicated X-Plane forum that has, at the time of me posting this, 332 members, 442 guests and 12 anonymous people, online right now, and the post frequency in those forums outnumbers the post frequency in the MSFS section of these forums?

The total number of registered people numbers in the thousands.  

And you think the few remaining people in here, who use X-Plane, discussing X-Plane in the avsim X-Plane forums, while constantly being interrupted by others who don't even have X-Plane, are the problem?

If I made a post where I stated, "X-Plane 12 is the premiere, all round best flight sim today!", how fast do you think that thread would explode into insults and personal attacks from people who don't use X-Plane?

And you're calling X-Plane people "delusional" and "the problem with avsim"??

MSparks post could simply be interpreted as his opinion.  For someone so adamant about the definition of an opinion, you seem extremely condescending about it.

Edited October 8, 20232 yr by GoranM

Maybe one day certain people on this forum might do something and remove certain posts, until than Ill just be like many come here read posts and wonder what everyone is on about. But it seems this particular forum is ignored.

7 hours ago, GoranM said:

MSparks post could simply be interpreted as his opinion.  For someone so adamant about the definition of an opinion, you seem extremely condescending about it.

Fear Anger and denial levels are high tho, if you missed the other sides dev update on the 5th October certain things which before were just my opinion became facts.

hearts were broken 💔 

7 hours ago, GoranM said:

from people who don't use X-Plane?

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it buy the better flight sim for the cheaper price.

7 hours ago, GoranM said:

Is that your opinion?  

Well yes, it’s not a fact is it? 

 

14 minutes ago, mSparks said:

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it buy the better flight sim for the cheaper price.

Point proven. 

7 hours ago, GoranM said:

Do you realize there is a dedicated X-Plane forum that has, at the time of me posting this, 332 members, 442 guests and 12 anonymous people, online right now, and the post frequency in those forums outnumbers the post frequency in the MSFS section of these forums?

Yes, I’m a member. The place is like the autocracy of the forum world. Give some constructive criticism over there and you’re sent on a holiday. Not good. 

7 hours ago, GoranM said:

MSparks post could simply be interpreted as his opinion.  For someone so adamant about the definition of an opinion, you seem extremely condescending about it

At least I’m not telling people their opinion is wrong, unlike you. 

13 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

At least I’m not telling people their opinion is wrong, unlike you. 

Correcting an opinion...or responding with a condescending personal attack, while minimizing their opinion with a "hahahahahaha".  

I know which one I prefer to give.  

 

Edited October 8, 20232 yr by GoranM