October 24, 20232 yr can anybody tell me if there is a page to know wich runways are used for departure and arrivals at an airport in real life?
October 24, 20232 yr Flight Radar 24 would be a quick option to see what is currently in use. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
October 24, 20232 yr For US airports you can get the latest digital ATIS (in text form) from https://datis.clowd.io Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
October 24, 20232 yr ATIS would be a thing to check first as JRBarett pointed out. Other than that METAR for given airport would give an idea for favorable winds and therefore choice of runway. Other things to consider is type of aircraft and choice of multiple runways (if airport has two on more). In this case not only wind direction but also runway length plays a role. Also consider different traffic flows known only to ATC which would favor one runway for take off and another for landing.. Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 24, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, sd_flyer said: Also consider different traffic flows known only to ATC airport (navigraph) charts can include a broad description of runway use at different hours for noise abatment procedures etc. ..... & which might require downwind or opposed operations. these will be mentioned in an ATIS. an ATIS may also reflect a forecast (TAF) that downwinds will be in use prior to the passing of a gusty & stronger wind change. unfortunately, there is no ATC addon that can adequately "mimic" the real's above as they only use historic metar. Edited October 24, 20232 yr by vadriver for now, cheers john martin
October 24, 20232 yr Flight radar is one of your best options, I use it every flight. Sometimes the runway in use is not what you expect when comparing it to wind direction. Thomas Derbyshire
October 24, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, vadriver said: airport (navigraph) charts can include a broad description of runway use at different hours for noise abatment procedures etc. ..... & which might require downwind or opposed operations. these will be mentioned in an ATIS. an ATIS may also reflect a forecast (TAF) that downwinds will be in use prior to the passing of a gusty & stronger wind change. unfortunately, there is no ATC addon that can adequately "mimic" the real's above as they only use historic metar. it's really hard to match real world ops for each of airport and transfers them to the sim. For example, in my airport nose noise abatement is purely voluntarily. So If I do circle to land or vectored missed approach (we not always get published missed ) our neighbors suffers a lot of noise LOL But hey! My airport was here since 1959. There were only few farms and that is it. People built or bought houses nearby it their problem LOL P.S. ATIS reflect whatever happnes at the moment. We all hopes that TAF is right on money when issue . But we also aware the weather man can get right results only 50% of the time and still keep his job LOL Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, sd_flyer said: P.S. ATIS reflect whatever happnes at the moment. indeed, but as you wrote earlier, it is the only way simmers can expect to see the appropriate runway to use that meets local "considerations" & evolving weather .... unless of course, an ATC addon that controls traffic were to at least review an updated TAF & react to expected weather changes in the next 30mins or so. one should remember, a real ATIS is updated as required (not to a schedule like a metar) to suit very recent weather observations seen from the tower window. obviously, it is more than a balancing act for simming if the sim's metar is more than 30mins old. for now, cheers john martin
October 25, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, motishow said: can anybody tell me if there is a page to know wich runways are used for departure and arrivals at an airport in real life? Lots of good info in this thread When you look at wind in the metar or ATIS you generally want to plan your runway that has its numbers closest to the metar. Like if the wind says 27010KT, and the airport has a runway 18/36 and 29/11....you'd choose runway 29. The wind is coming FROM the west. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
October 25, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, vadriver said: indeed, but as you wrote earlier, it is the only way simmers can expect to see the appropriate runway to use that meets local "considerations" & evolving weather .... unless of course, an ATC addon that controls traffic were to at least review an updated TAF & react to expected weather changes in the next 30mins or so. one should remember, a real ATIS is updated as required (not to a schedule like a metar) to suit very recent weather observations seen from the tower window. obviously, it is more than a balancing act for simming if the sim's metar is more than 30mins old. Well, METAR is issued every hour but if there weather changing rapidly there will be SPECI remark and update. Good enough for simmer I think. Also worth mentioning in addition to ASIS there are also AWOS , ASOS Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, sd_flyer said: Well, METAR is issued every hour but if there weather changing rapidly there will be SPECI remark and update. Good enough for simmer I think. Also worth mentioning in addition to ASIS there are also AWOS , ASOS The D-ATIS for US airports will give the exact runways used for landings and departures. For instance, tonight at KORD, they are using runway 28C for arrivals and 28R and 22L for departures, with 28R departing from taxiway N5. If you are flying on your own it probably doesn’t really matter, but if you fly on VATSIM, you can expect them to use the same runway assignments contained in the latest real world ATIS. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
October 25, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, JRBarrett said: The D-ATIS for US airports will give the exact runways used for landings and departures. The only person who can give us exact runways is ATC LOL Since it so bad it in MSFS we can use whatever ATIS, METAR an etc 🙂 Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
October 25, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, JRBarrett said: if you fly on VATSIM, you can expect them to use the same runway assignments contained in the latest real world ATIS. indeed VATSIM is a mirror of real ATC ...... except it is off-line most times in my skies, hence why I wonder why an enterprising programmer has not written an app to better assign runways considering local conditions. for now, cheers john martin
October 25, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, sd_flyer said: The only person who can give us exact runways is ATC LOL Since it so bad it in MSFS we can use whatever ATIS, METAR an etc 🙂 I never use MSFS ATC or any third party automated ATC. I would not, even if it worked perfectly. If I can’t communicate with real live human beings on the other end of the microphone (VATSIM or Pilot Edge), I’ll do without and self-vector arrivals and departures. Even without ATC, I do try to adhere to the runway assignments in the current D-ATIS when flying to or from US airports. KORD for instance almost always assigns an intersection departure when using runway 10L/28R or 09C/27C for takeoffs, so I will plan accordingly for a shortened length. Listening to LiveATC.net, I do occasionally hear heavy international departures requesting “full length” for those two runways - probably for performance reasons. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
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