Just came across a video saying you need this to keep charts up to date in MSFS.

I do not have a subscription to Navigraph

Do I need to get one?   Does MSFS2020 updates the charts whenever there is a new release from Asobo.

 

Kind of confused here

It really depends on what you want to do. If you just fly general aviation stuff VFR and don't care about following specific airport procedures, you won't get much out of Navigraph. 

If you fly higher-depth airliners, many of them will flash a message that your nav data is out of date unless you keep current with the latest AIRAC cycle, which is what Navigraph does for you. That doesn't mean you can't fly them, but it can get obnoxious because the default navdata in one plane is probably going to be a different cycle than the default data in another, which will be different again from the sim's nav data.  Nav data doesn't change all that much from cycle to cycle, but if you're flying something that's several years out of date, in a sim environment that's running the current cycle you can run into problems getting your flight plan into the FMS.

 

4 hours ago, eslader said:

If you just fly general aviation stuff VFR and don't care about following specific airport procedures, you won't get much out of Navigraph. 

Navigraph is excellent for VFR.

7 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Navigraph is excellent for VFR.

The second part of the sentence you quoted is just as important as the first...

If you're just donking around looking at scenery and landing at random airports without needing any particular information about them, what are you going to do with Navigraph?

 

 

23 minutes ago, eslader said:

just donking around looking at scenery and landing at random airports

This is what VFR flying is for you? Ok, then. 🙄

VFR is way more complicated the IFR as far as I am concerned.

Unless your flying in the boondocks

Ron

 

 

No you do not need the subscription. It does not change that much. However, you loose out on a lot without it.

My advice. Do what I did.

Use Navigraph with Simbrief. Make a flight plan and fly it.

Then, subscribe just for a month, you can cancel after a month and its only around 20$

Redo the same flight with access to all the charts and extras from the subscription.

I think you will be impressed and then you can make an informed decision on whether to keep the subscription or not.

 

Ron

2 hours ago, Alvega said:

This is what VFR flying is for you? Ok, then. 🙄

No, which is why I said if that's what OP does, the OP won't get much out of Navigraph. The OP asked the question. We therefore aren't talking about how I sim, or how you sim, but how OP sims. This high-horse garbage about "my sim style is superior to your sim style" really needs to stop.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, eslader said:

No, which is why I said if that's what OP does, the OP won't get much out of Navigraph. The OP asked the question. We therefore aren't talking about how I sim, or how you sim, but how OP sims. This high-horse garbage about "my sim style is superior to your sim style" really needs to stop.

 

 

 

Don't even know what you're talking about or where you see this "garbage" in this thread.

Going back to the subject, Navigraph is very nice to have for VFR flight, especially now that is has worldwide VFR charts.

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Worldwide VFR Charts

Navigraph Charts displays a worldwide interactive map with visual reporting points, entry and exit routes, traffic patterns, transition routes, and flyways. As selectable data layers, Navigraph Charts also display coastlines, terrain, water bodies, roads, railroads, powerlines, windmills, churches, landmarks, obstacles, highpoints, and waterways. Airspaces are clearly marked, and so are populated areas, avoid-overflying zones, and minimum off route altitudes (MORA).

 

15 hours ago, wan2fly99 said:

Do I need to get one?   Does MSFS2020 updates the charts whenever there is a new release from Asobo.

Kind of confused here

I get why you are confused. The first thing you need to remember is that there are 2 related components. Navigational data in the sim that tells it about the VORs, NDBs, waypoints, airports, runways, and about other procedures like arrivals and departures. Then, there are the charts which allow you to see all of that information. Two separate things. 

MSFS includes and will automatically update the nav data in the sim each time a new AIRAC is released in the real world, which is every 56 days. 

I don't think MSFS comes with charts, so you'll need them from somewhere else. If you choose to use Navigraph for your charts, the Navigraph hub is necessary to install them.

Navigraph is excellent for all modes of flight and keeps everything nicely updated and access in-sim.  If being up-to-date and having instant access to all the charts is important for you, it's worth paying for.  There are other sources for charts if you don't feel you need it and/or have budget constraints.

Flying airliners has nothing to do with it - I fly IFR for most of my flights yet don't use the airliners at this time.

7 hours ago, eslader said:

The second part of the sentence you quoted is just as important as the first...

If you're just donking around looking at scenery and landing at random airports without needing any particular information about them, what are you going to do with Navigraph?

 

 

The question was specifically asking about Navigraph.  The idea it is no good for VFR is incorrect.

7 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

VFR is way more complicated the IFR as far as I am concerned.

I'm gonna go ahead and have to disagree with you on this one. IFR is way more complicated than VFR. If it wasn't, then they'd start out your training on IFR. 

2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The idea it is no good for VFR is incorrect.

I'll try this one more time.

If you fly VFR and don't care about following airport procedures you won't get much out of Navigraph. A lot of simmers just take off, fly around, land somewhere (or not) and quit the game. They don't care about procedures. They don't care about navigation beyond maybe hitting the direct-to button on the GPS. They don't care about airport information. Their money would be wasted on Navigraph. You don't need airport charts if you don't care about airport information. You don't need charts at all if all you want to do is fly randomly around. There are lots of simmers who don't need the extra info Navigraph provides over free web-based options. Since my crystal ball is in the shop and I have no idea how OP approaches simming, I included that as one end of the spectrum of my answer.

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 20232 yr by eslader

12 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Then, subscribe just for a month, you can cancel after a month and its only around 20$

It’s much less expensive than that. Only $9.69 USD for a month. Makes his advice even better. Try it for a month. If you don’t like it you’re out less than 10 bucks.