MSFS 2020 Auto FPS App v0.4.2

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

9 minutes ago, skylane182 said:

Thanks for all your great work for this App.
Is it possible to uninstall and/or deactivate the App if you, whatever reason, don't want to use it anymore, with reverting all the changes the app has done to the sim?
Do you recommend to backup any files before trying the App?

(Excuse if there are already answers to these questions anywhere in the two threads. Maybe a little FAQ-readme would be helpful for some users.)

Thanks in advance

https://github.com/ResetXPDR/MSFS2020_AutoFPS?tab=readme-ov-file#installation--update--uninstall

Edited March 27 by Cpt_Piett

[skylane182 12]

5 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

https://github.com/ResetXPDR/MSFS2020_AutoFPS?tab=readme-ov-file#installation--update--uninstall

Thanks for the link, unfortunately I didn't search for the FAQ on Github

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

Just now, skylane182 said:

Thanks for the link, unfortunately I didn't search for the FAQ on Github

No worries! 

To uninstall, simply run the installer and choose uninstall. This will remove everything. 

I'll let Reset answer the question about need for backup. 

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

0.4.2.8 VFR mode

I’ve done 3 approaches now in the Paro “Valley of Death” in the Caravan, using Reset’s settings.

I’m happy to report that I’ve found no issues so far. No stutters below AGL 1000ft. As FPS is very high in this remote corner of the world, I could probably increase TLOD max.

GPU-Z is active. So far I haven’t seen any signs of those droids. I bet they’re hiding somewhere though, probable in one of the many nearby monasteries. I can assure you that I will find them! Of course if I fail, I shall assume full responsibility for losing them and apologize to Lord Vader (as I'm sure he has the capacity to be merciful).

By the way, I found it necessary to dedicate a separate folder for Leo (got 13 of him now) 🙂

Edited March 27 by Cpt_Piett

[Reset XPDR 1,372]

3 hours ago, skylane182 said:

Thanks for all your great work for this App.
Is it possible to uninstall and/or deactivate the App if you, whatever reason, don't want to use it anymore, with reverting all the changes the app has done to the sim?
Do you recommend to backup any files before trying the App?

(Excuse if there are already answers to these questions anywhere in the two threads. Maybe a little FAQ-readme would be helpful for some users.)

Thanks in advance

There is already a readme containing a FAQ and install/uninstall section here.

The changes the app makes to the sim are only temporary while the app is running and it restores your original sim settings when it exits, so to uninstall completely you can just go ahead and run the installer and select the remove option and it will be gone completely.

Since the sim setting changes are temporary, there is no need back up any files before trying the app.

[RJC68 823]

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

So far I haven’t seen any signs of those droids

Think they have been at that bar ...

[caneman 91]

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

0.4.2.8 VFR mode

I’ve done 3 approaches now in the Paro “Valley of Death” in the Caravan, using Reset’s settings.

I’m happy to report that I’ve found no issues so far. No stutters below AGL 1000ft. As FPS is very high in this remote corner of the world, I could probably increase TLOD max.

GPU-Z is active. So far I haven’t seen any signs of those droids. I bet they’re hiding somewhere though, probable in one of the many nearby monasteries. I can assure you that I will find them! Of course if I fail, I shall assume full responsibility for losing them and apologize to Lord Vader (as I'm sure he has the capacity to be merciful).

By the way, I found it necessary to dedicate a separate folder for Leo (got 13 of him now) 🙂

 

So, Cpt_Piett question for you.

I've been experimenting with the Auto version (using metrics similar to yours), and I find that using the VFR setting gives me a much better visual experience particularly on takeoff. With IFR I get a lot of melted buildings and the TLOD never seems to "catch-up". 

Running a 3090 with an Ultra wide, so have to target 30 FPS. That said, with VRF settings I get a solid 35 FPS.

You seem to have done lots of trial and error with the mod, thoughts?

   

   

 

 

 

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

41 minutes ago, caneman said:

So, Cpt_Piett question for you.

I've been experimenting with the Auto version (using metrics similar to yours), and I find that using the VFR setting gives me a much better visual experience particularly on takeoff. With IFR I get a lot of melted buildings and the TLOD never seems to "catch-up". 

Running a 3090 with an Ultra wide, so have to target 30 FPS. That said, with VRF settings I get a solid 35 FPS.

You seem to have done lots of trial and error with the mod, thoughts?

PG-buildings needs relatively high TLODs to be fully rendered in the distance. Probably not as high as in this video (where I wanted to demonstrate how good NYC can look at a very high TLOD: https://youtu.be/pcDYVACjar4?si=kAHNpZDleH-a29oZ. To get TLOD 600 OLOD 900 at 3000ft over Manhattan at 80 FPS, I had to tweak various settings until my face turned blue...

So far I've done much more testing with IFR expert mode, but for the last couple of days, I've had VFR mode on the testbench. Results with 0.4.2.8-test are so far very promising, as the stutter-problem below 1000ft seems to be gone. At least in remote areas in a GA (Caravan) aircraft. In dense areas, I would still use IFR. Next step is testing the Fenix around Paro in both VFR and IFR mode. 

35 FPS without the frame gen mod is very good, as long as you don't get much stutters most of the time. If you do get stutters, you should reduce the load on the CPU (mainthread) as much as possible (less AI traffic, lower TLODs). 

I find that avoiding melted PG-buildings in the biggest metropolitan areas (NYC, London, LA) is probably the most challenging task in the sim, as this conflicts with getting decent performance. It's almost impossible to have both decent performance and decent visual quality in these situations. 

Edited March 27 by Cpt_Piett

[caneman 91]

Will be very interested to see how the VFR v IFR testing goes.  Btw the video is spectacular. 

You can get TLOD 600 OLOD 900 on a 77 inch screen?  if so, you might convince me to throw out my Ultra Wide. 

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

15 minutes ago, caneman said:

You can get TLOD 600 OLOD 900 on a 77 inch screen?  if so, you might convince me to throw out my Ultra Wide. 

I don’t know much about monitor size vs pixels, perhaps someone can educate me on that. But based on my (very) limited understanding, the number of pixels is the same on a large monitor as a smaller one. So the same GPU-power is probable needed (as long as resolution stays the same).

TLOD 600 required some serious tweaking though!

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

Just finished a test run in Nice, where I previously had stutters with VFR mode. Latest build seems to work much better. Caveat: Don't set TLOD min too high! I tried with 400 which caused stutters below 1000ft. 200 worked well though. 

Note: Nice is not a PG-city. If it was, I probably would have to lower TLOD further. 

Short video (4K processing should finish soon): 

I hopped into the Black Square King Air after a short coffee break and took it on a nice scenic tour around the French, Italian and Swiss Alps. Got up to TLOD 975 with FPS not falling below my target of 65. 

Btw, even at TLOD 975, Matterhorn really does not look that good in the sim.

Here's the log for my landing at LSGS Sion, Switzerland: 

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Expert: True Mode: FG ATgtFPS: False FltType: VFR TgtFPS: 65 TLODAMtd: 0 Tol: 5 TMin: 200 TMax: 975 OLODB: 1000 OLODT: 20 OLODBAlt: 1000 TMinEx: true CloudQ: True CRecovT: 100 Pause: True TLODBAlt: 100 MaxDesRate 2000 CustomOLOD: True OLODTAlt: 10000 

2024-03-28 01:54:57.379 FPS: 66 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 975 OLOD: 514 AGL: 4661 FPM: -1784 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:55:06.379 FPS: 70 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 906 OLOD: 622 AGL: 4450 FPM: -1914 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:55:15.377 FPS: 70 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 889 OLOD: 634 AGL: 4341 FPM: -1840 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:55:24.380 FPS: 71 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 858 OLOD: 657 AGL: 4129 FPM: -1742 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:55:33.380 FPS: 73 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 816 OLOD: 687 AGL: 3856 FPM: -1566 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:55:42.381 FPS: 73 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 763 OLOD: 730 AGL: 3504 FPM: -1573 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:55:51.378 FPS: 74 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 763 OLOD: 725 AGL: 3505 FPM: -1682 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:00.386 FPS: 75 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 730 OLOD: 750 AGL: 3284 FPM: -1599 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:09.385 FPS: 77 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 695 OLOD: 775 AGL: 3055 FPM: -1724 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:18.381 FPS: 77 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 659 OLOD: 801 AGL: 2814 FPM: -1591 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:27.386 FPS: 80 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 626 OLOD: 825 AGL: 2595 FPM: -1388 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:36.383 FPS: 81 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 600 OLOD: 844 AGL: 2420 FPM: -1330 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:45.377 FPS: 80 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 568 OLOD: 867 AGL: 2210 FPM: -1389 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:56:54.378 FPS: 82 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 538 OLOD: 889 AGL: 1997 FPM: -922 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:03.381 FPS: 84 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 527 OLOD: 896 AGL: 1944 FPM: -591 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:12.381 FPS: 84 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 511 OLOD: 909 AGL: 1834 FPM: -910 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:21.378 FPS: 85 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 534 OLOD: 892 AGL: 2013 FPM: 2827 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:30.380 FPS: 78 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 588 OLOD: 853 AGL: 2350 FPM: 135 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:39.382 FPS: 82 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 522 OLOD: 900 AGL: 1900 FPM: -3173 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:48.379 FPS: 85 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 455 OLOD: 949 AGL: 1457 FPM: -2978 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:57:57.381 FPS: 86 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 388 OLOD: 1003 AGL: 1013 FPM: -3071 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:58:06.379 FPS: 91 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 332 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 648 FPM: -2096 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:58:15.381 FPS: 88 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 296 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 378 FPM: -1333 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:58:24.380 FPS: 88 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 272 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 251 FPM: -862 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:58:33.381 FPS: 86 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 255 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 134 FPM: -836 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:58:42.383 FPS: 84 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 250 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 42 FPM: -487 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:58:51.381 FPS: 89 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 250 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 6 FPM: -124 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:59:01.379 FPS: 86 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 250 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 6 FPM: 52 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:59:10.384 FPS: 90 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 259 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 182 FPM: 1479 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:59:19.385 FPS: 90 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 302 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 492 FPM: 2535 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:59:28.378 FPS: 93 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 366 OLOD: 1000 AGL: 922 FPM: 3039 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:59:37.379 FPS: 93 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 427 OLOD: 965 AGL: 1321 FPM: 2668 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 01:59:46.385 FPS: 85 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 493 OLOD: 922 AGL: 1759 FPM: 3051 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 02:00:12.380 FPS: 87 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 523 OLOD: 900 AGL: 3091 FPM: 2885 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 02:00:21.381 FPS: 81 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 603 OLOD: 723 AGL: 3532 FPM: 2964 Clouds: Medium 
2024-03-28 02:00:30.383 FPS: 78 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 693 OLOD: 679 AGL: 3980 FPM: 2899 Clouds: Medium 

I'll squeeze in another short video as I'm still able to edit this post. This time from the PG-city of Zürich. After today's testing, I would say that the new implementation of VFR mode works really well - even in very dense areas, flying into major airports. Granted, with AI traffic, AutoFPS would probably lower TLODs to be able to meet the target FPS. Btw I lowered TLOD Min to 100 for Zürich. 

 

Edited March 28 by Cpt_Piett

[abennett 177]

Talk to me about average descent rate. Seem odd that it would be the same for VFR and IFR, generally an airliner has a very different fpm descent rate than an GA prop for example...

[fppilot 4,413]

3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Latest build seems to work much better.

Is that 2.4.8?  I've only seen and used 2.4.6 and looked for later late this afternoon.  With 2.4.2 I have had freeze ups on my three most recent flights.  First two were at about the same altitude on climb out from KEDC enroute to KIND.  Happened both times at around 27,000 and just 1,000 ft on top of an overcast.  Same route.  Changed the route somewhat and was fine for 2+ hours, but froze MSFS at about 8,500 about 1,000 ft above an overrcast.  Had AutoFPS Decrease Cloud Quality selected.  My MSFS cloud setting was Ultrra.  Again feel compelled to mention I am with RTX 3080 and using the FG hack.  Will fly tomorrow with Decrease Cloud Quality deselected.

[Cpt_Piett 4,843]

41 minutes ago, abennett said:

Talk to me about average descent rate. Seem odd that it would be the same for VFR and IFR, generally an airliner has a very different fpm descent rate than an GA prop for example...

I’ve just left it at default. Perhaps Reset can elaborate more on this. 

11 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Is that 2.4.8?

0.4.2.8 yes. VFR mode works a lot better now as long as TLOD Min is set at a reasonable level. Which highly depends on how dense the scenery is. 

[Reset XPDR 1,372]

2 hours ago, abennett said:

Talk to me about average descent rate. Seem odd that it would be the same for VFR and IFR, generally an airliner has a very different fpm descent rate than an GA prop for example...

The descent rate is just used to calculate the altitude band in which the app will adjust TLOD towards TLOD Min on a sliding scale. It's better to be too high than too low as a higher descent rate gives a larger altitude band which means TLOD has more time to adjust down so the TLOD steps are smaller which should be smoother.

In any case, the value I put in there is just a starting value and you can change it to whatever you want. What do you suggest I put in as the default descent rate for VFR?