Ryzen 7800X3D are plug and play as well, no hassle to park cores and stuff, and it runs cooler.

Edited March 19, 20242 yr by Ixoye

44 minutes ago, Fielder said:

With very good 4TB Nvme drives selling every day under $230, I would not settle for a 2TB drive for to be the main drive.

Sure. Though, I'm no longer assuming people have the budget for multiple component upgrades.

Nor am I presuming any longer that everyone posting here lives in a country where: a) $230 is cheap, or b) tech is priced similarly to the USA.

16 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

Ryzen 7800X3D are plug and play as well, no hassle to park cores and stuff, and it runs cooler.

Absolutely, $300 cheaper, simpler, cooler, no-brainer.  And lest we not forget, multithreading gets optimized soon--so hardly a need for any more "future proofing".  As MSFS2024 gets perhaps more cloud based perhaps best put the $300 into higher bandwidth internet if you need it.  Right now w/ my nearly 4y/o 9900K at 4.9gzHz what a 7800X3D should do for me is this:

• Allow me to add more aircraft on the ground and in the air.  Do I really want this? Not really. I see what I feel is just right air traffic and parked aircraft numbers about 12, and those are almost always in close prox to my gate.  Do I want to jam up the skies so I have to wait to take off and go around because of traffic?  Hardly!  
• Will bump my base rate of absolute stutter-free perfection at a Render Scale of 160 in any plane anywhere from 37, to maybe 45 or so?  That would nice for sure but absolute perfection in image quality, panning quality, animation smoothness, ultra high resolution scaling, stutter-free is really what matters by way far, the most.  
• A remote chance the graphic artifacts that happen for me when I enable FG on this RTX4090 may go away or improve.  Some *should* for sure, but one of the worst ones won't, and that is of course the judder that happens whenever I move mouse focus from my 2nd display to the main MSFS display.  Sometimes it's modest, often it's quite substantial, so not a good thing.  But also, one can train themselves to avoid looking at the moment of truth, which I did for a while until the other artifacts associated w/ FG were too undesirable and certainly immersion breaking when one is use to perfection.
• Bump up TLOD, though I just learned today turning PG off hugely reduces the load in the main thread, so will test that shortly.

TBH, I thought I really needed a new CPU before upgrading the GPU.  I was wrong, thankfully!  The 4090 has eliminated stutters associated w/ maxing out VRAM, has let me bump my base rate from 33 to 37 which at these lower rates is noticed and is useful and especially sweet:  render scale at 160, and it could go 200 easily.  So 4090 has breathed meaningful new life into the old CPU.  Add to this improvements in multithreading?  May mainly buy a new CPU because this one's getting old in terms of volts and hours of operation, so the end will come.  I'll retire it into my music workstation.

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

perhaps best put the $300 into higher bandwidth internet if you need it.

for MSFS: 10 Mbit/s should suffice according to an earlier statement by Jorg back in 2020, so we won't need 200 Mbit/s for MSFS 2024. only for installation this would be helpful.

14 minutes ago, Noel said:

I thought I really needed a new CPU before upgrading the GPU.  I was wrong, thankfully!  

You will be able to load more AI and set a higher T-LOD value with a 7800X3D, that's it, your 4090 will take care of the rest ,but the question is if you need to upgrade your CPU now that Auto FPS has become a reality, it seems to work fine from what I understand.

Edited March 19, 20242 yr by Ixoye

Once the new MSFS update goes public this will likely change given the new improved CPU and memory management the sim will have.

4 hours ago, Fielder said:

With very good 4TB Nvme drives selling every day under $230, I would not settle for a 2TB drive for to be the main drive.

As for the main drive (C: OS only) I'd go for a 1TB min.

Then put MSFS on a 4TB drive.

14 hours ago, RobJC said:

MSFS is mainly GPU limited now because of the way threads are used (or not) in 2020. When 2024 is released, and it utilizes threads far better, the tide could change to something like the 7950x3d. More future proof imo. 

? I always thought MSFS tends to be CPU limited. At least on my system its the CPU limitation that brings MSFS to the limits.

Thanks for all the responses - much appreciated guys. Just one thing more - will I see a substantial increase in performance coming from an i7 9700K ?

37 minutes ago, TrevorS said:

will I see a substantial increase in performance coming from an i7 9700K ?

I went from an 9900K to the AMD 7800X3D and nearly doubled my fps.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by turbomax

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

 

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-9700K+%40+3.60GHz&id=3335

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by turbomax

2 hours ago, TrevorS said:

will I see a substantial increase in performance coming from an i7 9700K ?

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-9700K+%40+3.60GHz&id=3335

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3335vs5299/Intel-i7-9700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by turbomax

5 hours ago, TrevorS said:

Thanks for all the responses - much appreciated guys. Just one thing more - will I see a substantial increase in performance coming from an i7 9700K ?

I went from an I9 10900K to the AMD 7800X3D and gain about 20fps, at big third party airports, it is the amount of AI, aircrafts with lots of screens and complex panels as well as the T-Lod setting you will notice the difference, everything else is controlled by your GPU.

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by Ixoye

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Edited March 20, 20242 yr by Noel

Thanks for all the input guys 👏