This Black Square Duke engine start video is amazing...

[DavidP 1,413]

I think the explanations were somewhat long winded for educational purposes - a reciprocating engine is not that hard to start although some background knowledge always helps.

[Purr 125]

9 minutes ago, DavidP said:

I think the explanations were somewhat long winded for educational purposes - a reciprocating engine is not that hard to start although some background knowledge always helps.

Yes, maybe so...but I have to say I'm still left twitching to buy!!!  aaaaaaghhhh when when when when.

I do love the tablet but I just look forward to the flying.

[Pivot 153]

I'm in, cleaning a space in the Hangar for the new addition.. 🤠👍

[Sonosusto 681]

4 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

It takes 2 minutes to start an engine in the HJET.  BYE BYE.

sp

Yeah and I love that one as well.

[sd_flyer 6,047]

5 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

It takes 2 minutes to start an engine in the HJET.  BYE BYE.

sp

There are types of pilots LOL

[Gazzareth 808]

5 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

It takes 2 minutes to start an engine in the HJET.  BYE BYE.

sp

2 minutes ? What are you doing for the other 1.5 minutes ??

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[tup61 1,575]

8 hours ago, Rimshot said:

Although impressive, of course in real life you do not have a tablet to monitor the inside of the engine during startup. Therefore I doubt I'll use it much, if at all. Same as with the A2A Comanche.

This. Looks cool but totally unrealistic. Just as a some of the A2A options. The systems behind it all are great, of course, but the 'advanced tablets' they come up with nowadays are just daft.

[turbomax 3,286]

51 minutes ago, tup61 said:

This. Looks cool but totally unrealistic.

the ASSIST menu, blue taxi chevrons, AI pilot flies your aircraft etc. etc. are even more totally unrealistic. they are Options, not compulsory. how about not activating those and the Dukeˋs innovative tablet that illustrates in an unprecedent detail and helps to understand the underlying complexity of both engine types? I am glad for these "OPTIONS" which I may, but don't have to invoke from time to time. I can't think of a better way to illustrate and explain these internal engine processes, while they happen. I am impressed at the knowledge that BKSQ has demonstrated here. to complain about an optional feature? hmmm ..

makes me want to buy and understand these two "totally unrealistic" aircraft even more.

Edited March 27 by turbomax

[s0cks 116]

2 hours ago, tup61 said:

This. Looks cool but totally unrealistic. Just as a some of the A2A options. The systems behind it all are great, of course, but the 'advanced tablets' they come up with nowadays are just daft.

I have to admit, after looking at the engine tab in the Comanche tablet in awe the first few flights I don't really ever open it now. In fact I don't really want to. It's not realistic. I can hear the cylinder misfiring (for example) and that is my cue as to something being wrong. Or my power dropping because I've got carb icing. Knowing something is wrong via some magic tablet is kinda weird. That said, as a learning tool, especially the Duke tablet, it is pretty freaking cool.

[DavidP 1,413]

15 minutes ago, s0cks said:

That said, as a learning tool, especially the Duke tablet, it is pretty freaking cool.

That's why I like it.

[bobcat999 8,484]

3 hours ago, tup61 said:

This. Looks cool but totally unrealistic. Just as a some of the A2A options. The systems behind it all are great, of course, but the 'advanced tablets' they come up with nowadays are just daft.

I understand why you think it is daft, but it can be stowed out of the way, and is a good option to have as a learning tool for those of us (like me) where knowledge is limited, and we want to know more about aircraft engines, and starting and operating them. 
My knowledge doubled just by watching the video, and it also demonstrates very well how they have programmed the engine physics, such as how the engine stops rotating against a cylinder coming on to compression etc. 

The traditionalists / people who know everything / sim snob types, don't have to use the pad. It is optional so I can't see a problem with it, and I appreciate the extra effort they have put in. 

Of course, after all this, if it flies like a brick it is all for nothing, but going by Black Square's reputation and previous products, I can't see that being the case. 

Edited March 27 by bobcat999

[ryanbatc 12,859]

5 hours ago, tup61 said:

This. Looks cool but totally unrealistic. Just as a some of the A2A options. The systems behind it all are great, of course, but the 'advanced tablets' they come up with nowadays are just daft.

You don't have to even look at the tablet - but the systems depth remains.  Diagnose issues using your pilot brain 🙂

[MrBitstFlyer 3,875]

13 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

It takes 2 minutes to start an engine in the HJET.  BYE BYE.

sp

You seem to have missed the fact the video was to demonstrate the systems/tablet complexity, not the actual displays/start sequence.  The Duke engines will have a similar start sequence to any other comparable aircraft.

[MrBitstFlyer 3,875]

6 hours ago, tup61 said:

the 'advanced tablets' they come up with nowadays are just daft.

The engine display are not meant to represent reality with procedures, but are there to benefit those of us who appreciate the depth of systems and the knowledge we can gain.  I personally will not use those pages when setting up for a flight, but I will when not flying the Duke to better understand the aircraft.

The fact those displays are there does not take away the realism of the product in any way - just don't use them as part of your normal flying.

[Krakin 5,774]

14 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

To be fair, what Black Square does for the engine, HotStart did for the entire airplane, all systems, even the freaking GPS satellites are modelled. And it's a modern jet, a lot more complicated than a prop plane. I think HotStart won't lose no sleep over this (although they might lose sleep over the X-Plane situation, but that's another topic of its own).

They're not only doing this for the engine. You should check out their video that looks at the tablet specifically.

Also, I never said Black Square already surpassed HotStart, I said HotStart shouldn't think they'll ALWAYS be the most detail oriented.

BTW, Fenix also has satellite coverage modeled for their A320.