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Counterfeit titanium on Boeing and Airbus planes

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Titanium has been used in parts made for the Boeing 737 Max, 787 Dreamliner, and Airbus A220 jets

The counterfeit titanium would have been produced by an unknown Chinese manufacturer who, through forgery, made it appear to come from the well-known and certified Baoji Titanium Industry.

The FFA is investigating.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/14/us/politics/boeing-airbus-titanium-faa.html

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I'm really gonna start worrying if they counterfeit the cockpit crew! 👨‍✈️

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13 hours ago, charliearon said:

I'm really gonna start worrying if they counterfeit the cockpit crew! 👨‍✈️

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This can be very difficult for a manufacturer to catch. In maintenance, we depend on the supplied documentation to be accurate and legitimate - either a certificate of conformance (COC) for new parts, or a form 8130 for parts which have been repaired or overhauled. In the case of a part which comes with a COC, there would typically be no overt sign that the documentation has been forged. It is probably more an issue with parts sourced from outside the country where they are ultimately used. In the case of titanium, it would require full materials testing to determine if the alloy is correct, which would not be something an end-user would typically do until a red flag has been raised.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

Lowest cost bidder involved in the process, perhaps?

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Of all the stupid things to counterfeit.

 

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14 hours ago, jon b said:

Of all the stupid things to counterfeit.

 

My now deceased wife had a 30 year career working for the Department of Defense.  She dealt with ordering military aircraft parts and often said that they were not allowed to even consider foreign made parts due to counterfeit materials and parts.  It's not a new problem.

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