July 12, 20241 yr I have just uninstalled it. The airplane is easy to fly, but not really needed for pure IFR operations: Every time you have to adjust altitude or heading for the AP, you have to zoom in a lot to see the numbers on the screens. This is not really useful. Also, the AP often does not react at all and does not hold on to the setted LNAV and VNAV values. That would still be acceptable, when de AP not does, what he should, in take over manualy (in every Plane), but I really don't like it, and that's why it's being removed from the SSD, Some of the screens are unreadable. The fonts are too thin and unrecognizable. Get rid of it! What is your experience with the ATR? Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
July 12, 20241 yr Is your camera zoom setting correct for your seating position / screen size. Just a thought as I don't have any aircraft that have screens hard to read. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
July 12, 20241 yr Author 7 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Is your camera zoom setting correct for your seating position / screen size. Just a thought as I don't have any aircraft that have screens hard to read. my camera zoom is on standard. some nubers and lines in the ATR are with standard zoom hard to see. We can make the fonts larger in settings for precisely this reason, so the developer Hans Hartmann is aware of the problem. However, if you make the digits larger, some numbers no longer fit into the screnn where they should be. - this ATR is the only one, i have this problem. ( i am flying only Addons - like PMDF, Fenix, not standard planes, maybe other standard planes have some troubles also?) Edited July 12, 20241 yr by Alti
July 12, 20241 yr Just now, Alti said: my camera zoom is on standard What does this mean? Have you used a tool like this one to make sure your zoom setting is correct? If your zoom is zoomed out too far, I would imagine text would be hard to read - as you say you have to zoom in to read text, CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
July 12, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, MrBitstFlyer said: What does this mean? Have you used a tool like this one to make sure your zoom setting is correct? If your zoom is zoomed out too far, I would imagine text would be hard to read - as you say you have to zoom in to read text, i am not using external tools, when you go to settings, in kamera options, "standard" zoom is on 50. its automaic set by MSFS. screen resolution is 2560x1080, which is native on my samsung monitor.
July 12, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Alti said: i am not using external tools, when you go to settings, in kamera options, "standard" zoom is on 50. its automaic set by MSFS. screen resolution is 2560x1080, which is native on my samsung monitor. 50 sounds WAY too zoomed out, no wonder you are having problems reading text 🙂 As I suggested, use the tool I linked to so your zoom setting is correct, then you won't have problems reading text. If you use the tool to get the correct field of view for your seating position / monitor, I can guide you how to set the MSFS zoom setting to match. Edited July 12, 20241 yr by MrBitstFlyer CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
July 12, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, Alti said: I have just uninstalled it. The airplane is easy to fly, but not really needed for pure IFR operations: Every time you have to adjust altitude or heading for the AP, you have to zoom in a lot to see the numbers on the screens. This is not really useful. Also, the AP often does not react at all and does not hold on to the setted LNAV and VNAV values. That would still be acceptable, when de AP not does, what he should, in take over manualy (in every Plane), but I really don't like it, and that's why it's being removed from the SSD, Some of the screens are unreadable. The fonts are too thin and unrecognizable. Get rid of it! What is your experience with the ATR? Translated with DeepL.com (free version) Much better than yours in almost everything you mention. You’re right. Go ahead and delete it. It will never satisfy you. -B
July 13, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: 50 sounds WAY too zoomed out, no wonder you are having problems reading text 🙂 As I suggested, use the tool I linked to so your zoom setting is correct, then you won't have problems reading text. If you use the tool to get the correct field of view for your seating position / monitor, I can guide you how to set the MSFS zoom setting to match. I'm curious. Step me through it, please? According to the tool my monitor and my distance from it are almost "ideal". MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
July 13, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, Alti said: i am not using external tools, when you go to settings, in kamera options, "standard" zoom is on 50. its automaic set by MSFS. screen resolution is 2560x1080, which is native on my samsung monitor. Just use the FOV tool. It will likely fix your issue, it did for my ultrawide.
July 13, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, speedyTC said: I'm curious. Step me through it, please? According to the tool my monitor and my distance from it are almost "ideal". Do you mean the FOV figure the tool gives you is ideal? CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
July 13, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Do you mean the FOV figure the tool gives you is ideal? The size of the monitor and my distance from it seem to be giving me a pretty 'natural' view, both in the vertical and horizontal plane according to the tool. I was interested in the MSFS zoom settings although I have been reading that playing around with the default settings in the Options menu isn't the best idea. I generally leave them at default and then adjust them once I'm in the aircraft (both the inside and outside views). MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
July 13, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: 50 sounds WAY too zoomed out, no wonder you are having problems reading text 🙂 As I suggested, use the tool I linked to so your zoom setting is correct, then you won't have problems reading text. If you use the tool to get the correct field of view for your seating position / monitor, I can guide you how to set the MSFS zoom setting to match. Huh? 50 is the default zoom level and I've been using that for 4 years now. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
July 13, 20241 yr Author 13 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: 50 sounds WAY too zoomed out, no wonder you are having problems reading text 🙂 As I suggested, use the tool I linked to so your zoom setting is correct, then you won't have problems reading text. If you use the tool to get the correct field of view for your seating position / monitor, I can guide you how to set the MSFS zoom setting to match. Thank you for your engagement, but all your words will not make this plane better for me. Its gone from my fleet, and it will not come back into my hangar. MS and FS2crew have got their money. so i am happy that i have got these software in sale. Full price its not worth. But thats only my oppinion.
July 13, 20241 yr Author 12 hours ago, btacon said: Much better than yours in almost everything you mention. You’re right. Go ahead and delete it. It will never satisfy you. -B Thanks you, that was the right words!
July 13, 20241 yr You can use the preset views and/or create your own with focus on different areas of the panels... But I would rather prefer to have a decent instrument popup and associated system, something that has never worked in MSFS 2020 because if you leave the mouse on the popped window you lose control of the aircraft 😕 Maybe they can find some way around for 2024? Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
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