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Dreamfleet Dakota crashes FSX!

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Stan-You might want to post in their forum for help.Unfortunately I am in Vista hades right now (after a routine vista automatic update I haven't been able to boot up for two weeks) so I can't really help right now.I do remember right clicking the fsx icon and changing some permissions for Vista which might help you but I don't remember exactly what I did and I don't have a 'puter right now to have a look.x(You will be able to get it working though and it will be worth it!http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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I bought the Dakota last week and have absolutely no problems. I'm running it in FSX SP2 on Vista. The Dakota is one of the smoothest, most professional, highest quality aircraft I have ever purchased. As Geof mentioned, check on the Dreamfleet forums and I'm sure you'll get the help you need.Don

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Do you have Ultimate 32 or 64 installed ? Unfortunately the Dakota isn't 64 bit compatible (yet?).Heiko

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One of the first rules of booting up a complex Aircraft in FSX is to start flight sim and locate yourself at your departure airport with a default aircraft in 2D panel view then switch to the payware plane.This initializes the systems and is when one saves the flight, many if not all payware planes have a gauge looking for an ini file and often a registry check as well , add to that a few hundred lines of code all needing to initialize at startup and sometimes things need to be located , there is a registry tool offered by flight one and most 3PD's include it somewhere, RXP has it included in the installer i believe but a visit to the DF forums will give you access to the gauges designers themselves and a solution to your set up issues may already be posted.

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>Do you have Ultimate 32 or 64 installed ? Unfortunately the>Dakota isn't 64 bit compatible (yet?).>>Heiko>I'm running Vista Ultimate 32.

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I have Vista Premium 32 bit and it works great! Recommend you uninstall and reinstall making sure all remnants of the previous installation are deleted before reinstalling. It's possible your gauges were not properly entered in the FSX.cfg as trusted. Makes sure any entries in that section of the FSX.cfg are removed and it also uses the Garmin 400 series trainer so make sure that's uninstalled too before reinstalling. The Dakato will work if properly installed and there's nothing wrong with your operating system.Jim

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Good advice. I will re-install. I have Vista Ultimate 32. Thanks, I'll try that tonight. I'm anxious to fly her.

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I downloaded it the first weekend it was released. Flew it several times and had no problems at all. This weekend, I tried to load it three times and each time FSX crashed to the desktop. Absolutely nothing has changed on my computer, except there have been a couple of Vista updates. I wonder if those of us having problems are using automatic updates and those not having problems have not installed the recent Vista updates. That is the only reason I can think of that would explain why it worked perfectly for awhile then suddenly crashes every time you try to load it.It's a great plane. Hope they can get it fixed soon.

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I bought the Dreamfleet Dakota for FSX (Geofa seems to love the plane and its cockpit). However, whenever I try to load it from the aircraft menu within FSX, the simulator crashes and closes. Is there a file update that prevents this? I've searched and found nothing.

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OT on Geof's Vista issue:How are MS proposing to fix this? Since you can't boot you also can't apply a fix unless it's in the form of a floppy or CD that your PC can boot to. Is this issue widespread? Unbelievable!Good luck with this,Bruce.

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"I wonder if those of us having problems are using automatic updates and those not having problems have not installed the recent Vista updates. That is the only reason I can think of that would explain why it worked perfectly for awhile then suddenly crashes every time you try to load it."I receive automatic updates and so far FSX has not crashed when selecting the Dakota so doubt that's the problem some are having. It loads several gauges and dll's and wonder what would happen if you deleted all the items in the "Trusted" section of FSX.cfg. Not to worry about messing things up as you will be asked again if you want to trust a dll or gauge when you load the aircraft. Perhaps it becomes corrupted on some machines. I recently deleted all the items listed in the trusted section and FSX seems to load faster. When you get your next crash loading the Dakota, try deleting the gauges in the Trusted Section and see if that fixes the problem.Jim

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OK, at this point, I tried everything. Did the UAC control off and nothing happened. Then I uninstalled every remnant of the airplane and gauges twice, and the Dakota still CRASHED. Then I went again to the Dreamfleet Forum and found that others (not all, though) using Vista have crashes too.Here's what Lou Betti said in response to someone else having crashes:"At this stage we cannot replicate it. It is very difficult to provide a fix unless we can replicate it.About all we can say is that it is an issue with certain user's systems (mostly Vista, and not many at that).Keep in mind that the vast majority of customers have no problem, and if we could sit down in front of your machine we would probably be able to fix it. Sadly, we cannot". __________________Regards,Lou BettiWell....based on that comment, I have an airplane I just bought and cannot fly. Therefore, I'd like my money back. I will have to email someone to find a way to get that done. This is the FIRST time I ever had a problem with a Flight1 Dreamfleet product.

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I don't own the Dakota, but I have a lot of Vista/FS experience.You can always try disabling DEP globally in Vista.Although you shouldn't have to, sometimes that can do the trick (Vista can sometimes work in mysterious ways :-) )You can always turn DEP back on if it makes no difference.It's also a good idea to turn off all non-necessary applications running in the background before you load FS.Letting the FSX.cfg file rebuild is also a good idea.Also, be sure to run "Event Viewer" in Vista; you can get more info on what's causing the crash to help you isolate the issue.Cheers,Bryan

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They have support emailing me solutions-they come about every two to three days-then the rep decides a higher rep needs to help out and the cycle goes again. It looks like I will have to trash everything and I am hoping to resist this as it will take me 3 weeks to get everything back-though considering I am almost at the 3 week point perhaps the lesser of two evils.What happened is my automatic updates suddenly stopped working-(I was working with support on that). One day I came home and it said it had dowloaded 3 updates! Great -I thought. Trouble is it would get to "installing update #3" -show zero %-and then reboot-over and over . (This is case #1 a lot of people have had). I got a solution to that from the second MS rep-booted my computer once normally-and now it comes up a black screen with a mouse curser (also documented by many)-sits a while and then reboots. Tried the system repair, tried to restore (it says there are no restore points even though there were many), reinstalling (it says my version has to be installed from windows-kinda hard to do when I can't get to windows!). You get the scenerio-catch 22.I am pretty sure all that is left is to start at the beginning-and that is a bad deal....http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Stan-I never had trouble with the Dakota but I did have trouble with the reality xp instruments in their stand alone package..initially.Again-the fix was right clicking on the fsx icon and changing something-the permissions or something. If I had my computer working right now I'd take a look and let you know but I can't right now till my problem gets resolved.You might want to nose around the realityxp forum for an answer before getting a refund.It will be worth it!http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpgMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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>Again-the fix was right clicking on the fsx icon and changing>something-the permissions or something. If I had my computer>working right now I'd take a look and let you know but I can't>right now till my problem gets resolved.These are the settings I use for FSX on my Vista machine. In the Compatibility Tab I've set it to "Disable visual themes" and "Disable Desktop composition" so the system won't waste resources keeping the Desktop (which can't be seen anyway) refreshed.In the Security Tab notice how I've given myself "full permission" to access all the files in my FSX folder.Note I've also found a hidden "gem." I set up a special "account" named "Everyone" which then allows me to access the entire computer across my network... ;)http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8802/fs...settingsju7.jpg

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Geofa,I absolutely know the feeling you have now about starting over. "Been there...done that". It's a shame!I hear such good things about Macs and Apple. I'd LOVE to be able to have a reliable, powerful, Apple Computer for all my computer tasks.....but Alas, Flight Simulation and MacIntosh do not see "eye to eye". I hope someday they can get together. Computing just might be fun again.Stan

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Stan,Seems none of the suggestions so far have fixed your problem and it's a shame you're still having problems with the Dakota loading. I'm wondering if the problem centers around your sound card. Sound card drivers may also be the issue that causes many other simmers to have menu crashes, etc. I remember individuals (like me) who had FS2K2 crashes due to bad sound card installs or the drivers were not the latest. I don't recall seeing any indications of sound card problems with FS9. Because menu crashes are not occurring in every system (I have never had one anyway with Vista installed), if you have a Creative sound card (I have the X-FI), this could be the problem. As I recall, Creative wasn't too excited about upgrading their drivers for the new Vista OS and they still haven't issued drivers that are completely compatible with Vista, especially the X-FI cards. We keep blaming the video card makers and it could be the sound card! They just issued an updated driver that supposedly fixes some "issues" with Vista SP1 and maybe you should research this possibility. One easy way to test this is to go into your device manager and disable your sound card, restart your system and reload FSX. You won't have any sound but at least you'll be able to see if it fixed your problem. In any case, I would update those drivers at your earliest convenience.Best regards,Jim

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Good idea. I'll try this tomorrow or Saturday. Thanks for a great suggestion.Stan

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Got the Dakota to fly today, and many of the gauges did not work. However, I was able to isolate the crashes to a message that told me that the Garmin did not load properly, and that seemed to be at the crux of the crashes. I did load everything I was supposed to when installing the plane. Something very simple is at fault, but I'll be d_ _ _ed if I know. I don't think I can install the plane with out the Garmin that comes with it...can I?

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