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iFly 737 Max8 comments and questions

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  • Stearmandriver
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    Surprised no one has mentioned it;  v1.0.3 update for the iFly released today.  Includes a pretty extensive changelog (some of the items are even mine... I feel heard 😂).

  • MassiveSim32_Jase
    MassiveSim32_Jase

    I am a bit time poor so won't go line by line, but I can say that I loved this in MSFS2020.  The sounds, feel and modelling of the aircraft really is 5 star.  You'll really enjoy it. With MSFS202

  • I know that was very unexpected in the current context at least from my POV.  I would have thought they would get the 737 series fully compliant first and especially with iFly competition?  It's like

21 minutes ago, romaf12008 said:

Where can I see the list of changes?

search "ifly changelog"

FSElite has an article on the update to 1.03

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7 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Surprised no one has mentioned it;  v1.0.3 update for the iFly released today.  Includes a pretty extensive changelog (some of the items are even mine... I feel heard 😂).

Yeah, it looks like a nice update. Is the HUD all good now?

2 hours ago, RNAVV19R said:

Yeah, it looks like a nice update. Is the HUD all good now?

Well there's no such thing in flight sim as "all good"; as in, flawless.  But very good, yes.  Better than the alternative for sure.

Andrew Crowley

7 hours ago, Speedbird 217 said:

Thanks a lot for the insight! That smart feature is exactly what I am looking for...especially making sure fuel burn is accurate and doesn't remain at 1x. Do you have any more info on that?

I don't, sorry.  I've never used it.  I can say that fuel burn tracks normally with manual use of accel though, from what I've seen.  I've never landed with more gas than I was expecting, if that's what you mean.

Andrew Crowley

On 3/18/2025 at 1:28 PM, Stearmandriver said:

Well there's no such thing in flight sim as "all good"; as in, flawless.  But very good, yes.  Better than the alternative for sure.

Just tried the RNAV Visual (RNVV) 19R at KLAS, and the HUD still doesn't seem to be very useful when hand flying approaches that are not straight-in. I actually find PMDG's HUD much better in this regard.

5 hours ago, RNAVV19R said:

Just tried the RNAV Visual (RNVV) 19R at KLAS, and the HUD still doesn't seem to be very useful when hand flying approaches that are not straight-in. I actually find PMDG's HUD much better in this regard.

The iFly HUD's flight guidance is still a little too sensitive, contrasted with the PMDG 's which is not sensitive enough to be precise.  There's a sweet spot in the middle which iFly is further tuning for.  Other than that though, everything in their HUD seems to be working correctly for me.  What did you see?

Andrew Crowley

Since you are all here. I am at my wits end

I am doing something wrong all of a sudden.

Taking off is fine. Power is up.

About 700 feet off the runway, the power just drops and I crash.

Never happened to me before in over  30 flights.

 

PMDG 737-800 working fine. so not my hardware

 

 

Edited by Ron Lefebvre

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I love the iFly, even though some systems depth is missing.  The only problem I have in general at the moment is with the AP.  V/S does not follow your guidance at all.  Dial in -2500 FPM and you're lucky if the plane will descend at -2000.  The other problem I have is with the AP going to sleep.  Last night I dialed in 8000 feet and let VNAV capture.  A couple miles from the fix I dialed in 5000 feet.  Crossing that fix with the 8000 restriction the plane just stayed level.  ALT INV didn't force it to descend, reengaging VNAV didn't force it to descend.  So I attempted to V/S to hurry to the next restriction.  Dialed in -2000 and it just wobbled around then switched to LVL CHG by itself.  It did not follow any instruction I gave it.  I had the A/T once stopped responding too.  The speed just kept bleeding off no matter what.  Those are fundamental problems that shouldn't happen with any add on.  I used the PMDG for years, along with dozens of add on aircraft from FS2002 forward.  I've never had problems like that. 

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2 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Since you are all here. I am at my wits end

I am doing something wrong all of a sudden.

Taking off is fine. Power is up.

About 700 feet off the runway, the power just drops and I crash.

Never happened to me before in over  30 flights.

 

PMDG 737-800 working fine. so not my hardware

 

 

Do you use toga for takeoffs? I know you said it isnt your hardware, but did you make sure you enabled the option in the efb to totally inhibit the physical throttles when the auto throttle is engaged? 

2 hours ago, Orlaam said:

I love the iFly, even though some systems depth is missing.  The only problem I have in general at the moment is with the AP.  V/S does not follow your guidance at all.  Dial in -2500 FPM and you're lucky if the plane will descend at -2000.  The other problem I have is with the AP going to sleep.  Last night I dialed in 8000 feet and let VNAV capture.  A couple miles from the fix I dialed in 5000 feet.  Crossing that fix with the 8000 restriction the plane just stayed level.  ALT INV didn't force it to descend, reengaging VNAV didn't force it to descend.  So I attempted to V/S to hurry to the next restriction.  Dialed in -2000 and it just wobbled around then switched to LVL CHG by itself.  It did not follow any instruction I gave it.  I had the A/T once stopped responding too.  The speed just kept bleeding off no matter what.  Those are fundamental problems that shouldn't happen with any add on.  I used the PMDG for years, along with dozens of add on aircraft from FS2002 forward.  I've never had problems like that. 

I had the autothrottle issue just yesterday on 1.3.0 - I was in VNAV and then set a SPD INT and the throttles never responded - I thought maybe a speed outside the speed restriction for the leg was the issue, but the SPD INT I set was withing the leg restriction. I cycled the autothrottle switch, selected VNAV and the thottles went live, so I re-entered the SPD INT and the throttles responded correctly.

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4 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

The iFly HUD's flight guidance is still a little too sensitive, contrasted with the PMDG 's which is not sensitive enough to be precise.  There's a sweet spot in the middle which iFly is further tuning for.  Other than that though, everything in their HUD seems to be working correctly for me.  What did you see?

When trying to place the flight director in the middle of the flight path symbol, it causes me to undershoot the final turn of the aforementioned approach. I'm using the primary mode, but from the patch notes, it sounds like only IMC and AIII modes were worked on.

This doesn't happen to me in the PMDG.

Edited by RNAVV19R

3 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Since you are all here. I am at my wits end

I am doing something wrong all of a sudden.

Taking off is fine. Power is up.

About 700 feet off the runway, the power just drops and I crash.

Never happened to me before in over  30 flights.

 

PMDG 737-800 working fine. so not my hardware

 

 

I'm going to guess you've got the hardware lockout option enabled that allows throttle inputs when the autothrottle mode is Arm or Thr Hold.  I've seen this as well, because my throttles will sometimes send a spike, and if the autothrottles mode is still in Thrust Hold as it would be right after takeoff, you can see a sudden power change.  

So, two options: either harmonize your physical throttles at a takeoff power setting, or change to the full throttle lockout mode.  I went with that one.  

Andrew Crowley

6 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said:

When trying to place the flight director in the middle of the flight path symbol, it causes me to undershoot the final turn of the aforementioned approach. I'm using the primary mode, but from the patch notes, it sounds like only IMC and AIII modes were worked on.

This doesn't happen to me in the PMDG.

Huh, I'd be surprised if the guidance works different in one mode vs another, but I do always fly approaches in IMC so it's possible I haven't noticed an issue in Pri if there is one.  I'll have to check it out next time.

Andrew Crowley

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