With PMDG absolutely dropping the ball  on getting the 737 available for MSFS 2024 I'm interested to see how the iFly 737 MAX performs in comparison.

Yours Faithfully in aviation

Richard H******

23 minutes ago, Langeveldt said:

With PMDG absolutely dropping the ball  on getting the 737 available for MSFS 2024 I'm interested to see how the iFly 737 MAX performs in comparison.

Yours Faithfully in aviation

Richard H******

I know that was very unexpected in the current context at least from my POV.  I would have thought they would get the 737 series fully compliant first and especially with iFly competition?  It's like they've given up!

It feels like they may need to reskill for the new development style. They clearly have a lot of techincal debt (reusing code from ages back..which is fine, but eventually you need to modernize) and are likely struggling with changing a lot of older code to make it work in the new SDK. 

I'm sure they will be able to do so in a few months/whatever, but a newer company with less technical debt can clearly just move faster. 

23 minutes ago, JonathanC said:

but a newer company with less technical debt can clearly just move faster. 

Speaking of “Less”, anyone know what the mysterious mandatory update to iFly Mgr is today?  No explanation, just a message to install.

-B

22 hours ago, NovemberUniform said:

Thanks for your reply. If it works exactly like the PMDG, I'm afraid I'm not interested.

PMDG isn't modeling nose wheel steering with rudder pedals correctly. This is true for the 737 and 777 (I have both). After a very tiny amount of rudder input you already get the full 7 degrees of nose wheel deflection. The 7 degrees should be spread across the whole rudder deflection. This is problematic, especially on takeoffs and landings, but it already feels kind of awkward during taxi (at least for me).

I've sent in a support ticket and they acknowledged but blame it on the sim. Although they said they may investigate further. I told their support other add-ons work correctly, which is true (Fenix).

Can anyone confirm ifly does this correctly?

I meant to infer the settings can be exactly like the PMDG, I did NOT mean that they taxi the same. I was responding only regarding whether rudder and tiller could be discrete settings, and they can be. As far as taxi behavior, whether it's "realistically" simulated I would have no knowledge of that as I have never flown a 737 IRL, but while not perfect, I consider it better than PMDG.

2 minutes ago, btacon said:

Speaking of “Less”, anyone know what the mysterious mandatory update to iFly Mgr is today?  No explanation, just a message to install.

-B

 

1 hour ago, MPL said:

Version 1.0.2.6 of the iFly Manager has been released. It is a required update. It has several bug fixes and enhancements, as well as being ready for the next MAX8 update. Just open the iFly Manager or go to https://manager.flight1.net to update.

 

11 minutes ago, Kevin_28 said:

 

 

Thanks.  That was the no help message from iFly I refereed to.  No help tho…

Anyone fresh for a try?

Airport YBCS

STAR NONUM 4Z

LNAV/VNAV RNP Y RWY15

Not once have i had the Max do the VNAV part despite having FMA LNAV/VNAV APP indicated with distance indicating.

My VNAV stays in VNAV Speed and never leaves this mode which must be the problem

I Reduce set speed to 180 prior to CNSI at 4000 feet setting the MCP to 2500 feet but  instead of respecting speed and descend  VNAV PATH never enables and the aircraft stays at 4000 feet.

VNAV should start descend on profile with selected speed.

This is the first RNP LNAV/VNAV i havent manage in the Max.

This is before the latest bugfix though

VNAV GP is "captured 3 degree" at 2450 feet at CNSNF btw. Normally i would put 900 feet just prior  this FAF  and missed approach altitude 5200 feet at about 2000 feet

Thanks

Michael Moe

Edited March 5, 20251 yr by Michael Moe

Bought the 738 max, I don't understand why my v\s is raising for the last 4nm before TOC, the banana bar is always in advance to the TOC. Anyone?

4 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

Bought the 738 max, I don't understand why my v\s is raising for the last 4nm before TOC, the banana bar is always in advance to the TOC. Anyone?

Winds aloft? It happens. 

2 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

Winds aloft? It happens. 

It happens systematically, I did more than 5 flights now with this new airplane and everytime I see this happens. I went to Ifly on discord for assistance, and I have adjusted my control bindings, reinstalled the software, verified the flight planning, but no luck. For this reason I ask you guys if see the same on your B738m, I don't see similar things happening with Fenix and other liners.

10 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

It happens systematically, I did more than 5 flights now with this new airplane and everytime I see this happens. I went to Ifly on discord for assistance, and I have adjusted my control bindings, reinstalled the software, verified the flight planning, but no luck. For this reason I ask you guys if see the same on your B738m, I don't see similar things happening with Fenix and other liners.

I get something similar randomly where my plane creeps up from 28000 to 31000 at 500fpm as fully loaded then suddenly from 32 to 38k it climbs at 2000fpm. I just put it down to air movement but also the msfs sim regularly does weird things that don't feel right so I just put up with it. 

12 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

It happens systematically, I did more than 5 flights now with this new airplane and everytime I see this happens. I went to Ifly on discord for assistance, and I have adjusted my control bindings, reinstalled the software, verified the flight planning, but no luck. For this reason I ask you guys if see the same on your B738m, I don't see similar things happening with Fenix and other liners.

Can't say I've noticed and I've been testing the Max quite a bit, so I guess that means it's within the range of normal.  It is correct that the TOC and green banana won't perfectly agree and will change during climb as conditions change.  If you see them agree perfectly and never change in other sim aircraft, then that's not realistic. 

I would suspect that even more than winds, temperature plays a part.  MSFS live weather has a tendency to produce some very goofy temperature shifts.  You could try setting manual weather with a constant temperature layer and see what happens.

On 3/5/2025 at 11:22 AM, Michael Moe said:

Anyone fresh for a try?

Airport YBCS

STAR NONUM 4Z

LNAV/VNAV RNP Y RWY15

Not once have i had the Max do the VNAV part despite having FMA LNAV/VNAV APP indicated with distance indicating.

My VNAV stays in VNAV Speed and never leaves this mode which must be the problem

I Reduce set speed to 180 prior to CNSI at 4000 feet setting the MCP to 2500 feet but  instead of respecting speed and descend  VNAV PATH never enables and the aircraft stays at 4000 feet.

VNAV should start descend on profile with selected speed.

This is the first RNP LNAV/VNAV i havent manage in the Max.

This is before the latest bugfix though

VNAV GP is "captured 3 degree" at 2450 feet at CNSNF btw. Normally i would put 900 feet just prior  this FAF  and missed approach altitude 5200 feet at about 2000 feet

Thanks

Michael Moe

I'll try this tonight, but some things stand out in your post.  In the first place, there's no such mode as VNAV APP.  Also, you refer to manually setting a speed, which means you must be using speed intervention.  If you open the speed window, VNAV will revert to VNAV Speed - this is correct behavior. It'll revert back to Path either inside the IF or when you extend flaps. 

But I'll give it a try.

3 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

I'll try this tonight, but some things stand out in your post.  In the first place, there's no such mode as VNAV APP.  Also, you refer to manually setting a speed, which means you must be using speed intervention.  If you open the speed window, VNAV will revert to VNAV Speed - this is correct behavior. It'll revert back to Path either inside the IF or when you extend flaps. 

But I'll give it a try.

Thanks , sorry yes no VNAV APP offcause.It wad just to illustrate the 3degree GP at 2450 feet. VNAV Speed was  staying in that mode despite flaps extending and landing gear.

Michael Moe

Edited March 7, 20251 yr by Michael Moe