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Multi Frame Generation on 5090 - Sim freezes

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Hi, I installed a brand new Gigabyte RTX 5090 last night and have a question about MFG.

If I select nVidia Frame Generation in the graphics menu and then choose 2, 3 or 4 the sim freezes when I press Fly to commence a flight.

I can select either nvidia or amd fsr no problem, HAGS is enabled too.  Sim loads and cinematic sequence is fine but all motion stops when I take control of the sim.

The FSR works fine, its just the nVidia Frame Gen in the sim. Same results with TAA or DLSS, same with Developer Mode on or off.

System specs: AMD 7800x3d, 64 Gb DDR5 6000 memory, RTX 5090.

Any ideas?  Do I need to enable it elsewhere like in the nVidia App (which I do not have installed)?

Chris

Chris Ibbotson

AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D / MSI AMD MPG x670E Carbon Motherboard / Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Gaming OC 32GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card / Corsair DOMINATOR Titanium RGB Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 / NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 - Fully Modular Low-Noise PC Gaming Power Supply - 1200 Watts - 80 PLUS Gold / 48” UltraGear™ UHD 4K OLED Gaming Monitor / 40" Philips 4K LED Monitor / Honeycomb Alpha Yoke / Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant / WinWing Orion Rudder Pedals c/w dampener / WinWing Ursa Minor Airline Joystick / WinWing Airbus MCDU

It is bugged currently, nothing you can do about besides hoping that it get fixed either by Asobo or nVIDIA...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

2 hours ago, cj-ibbotson said:

Hi, I installed a brand new Gigabyte RTX 5090 last night and have a question about MFG.

If I select nVidia Frame Generation in the graphics menu and then choose 2, 3 or 4 the sim freezes when I press Fly to commence a flight.

I can select either nvidia or amd fsr no problem, HAGS is enabled too.  Sim loads and cinematic sequence is fine but all motion stops when I take control of the sim.

The FSR works fine, its just the nVidia Frame Gen in the sim. Same results with TAA or DLSS, same with Developer Mode on or off.

System specs: AMD 7800x3d, 64 Gb DDR5 6000 memory, RTX 5090.

Any ideas?  Do I need to enable it elsewhere like in the nVidia App (which I do not have installed)?

Chris

Is this SU3 Beta?

Ramon De Valencia

AMD 9950X3D / 64GB DDR5 6000MHz / RTX 5090 / 1200 watt PSU

MSFS 2020 and 2024

Just a hunch, but I had freezes with the newest Nvidia drivers, but on rtx 4090, uninstalled it with ddu, reverted to older release...all good. 

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2 hours ago, ttbq1 said:

Is this SU3 Beta?

No it's Su2

Chris Ibbotson

AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D / MSI AMD MPG x670E Carbon Motherboard / Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Gaming OC 32GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card / Corsair DOMINATOR Titanium RGB Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 / NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 - Fully Modular Low-Noise PC Gaming Power Supply - 1200 Watts - 80 PLUS Gold / 48” UltraGear™ UHD 4K OLED Gaming Monitor / 40" Philips 4K LED Monitor / Honeycomb Alpha Yoke / Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant / WinWing Orion Rudder Pedals c/w dampener / WinWing Ursa Minor Airline Joystick / WinWing Airbus MCDU

Known Issue
An issue has been identified where selecting 3x or 4x for DLSS Frame Generation may lead to application instability. A fix is underway and will be available soon. As a workaround, NVIDIA app users can use the DLSS Override to enable DLSS Multi-Frame Generation.

https://www.flightsimulator.com/msfs2024-sim-update-2/

nvidia-dlss-multi-frame-generation-nvidi

Edited by HiFlyer

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6 hours ago, cj-ibbotson said:

Any ideas? 

What nvidia driver?

If different then 572.83, then try this one.

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I encountered the same problem and set the 4X Frame Gen in the Nvidia App and left the sim setting alone. Just a suggestion

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Fred Ziker

Ryzen 7 9800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon MB, 64gb DDR 6000 ram, Corsair H100i Liquid CPU cooler, Asus Prime RTX 5080

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1 hour ago, HiFlyer said:

Known Issue
An issue has been identified where selecting 3x or 4x for DLSS Frame Generation may lead to application instability. A fix is underway and will be available soon. As a workaround, NVIDIA app users can use the DLSS Override to enable DLSS Multi-Frame Generation.

https://www.flightsimulator.com/msfs2024-sim-update-2/

nvidia-dlss-multi-frame-generation-nvidi

I unfortunately am getting complete freezes at 2x as well. Only on nvidia FG in the sim. FSR works fine.

Chris Ibbotson

AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D / MSI AMD MPG x670E Carbon Motherboard / Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Gaming OC 32GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card / Corsair DOMINATOR Titanium RGB Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 / NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 - Fully Modular Low-Noise PC Gaming Power Supply - 1200 Watts - 80 PLUS Gold / 48” UltraGear™ UHD 4K OLED Gaming Monitor / 40" Philips 4K LED Monitor / Honeycomb Alpha Yoke / Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant / WinWing Orion Rudder Pedals c/w dampener / WinWing Ursa Minor Airline Joystick / WinWing Airbus MCDU

34 minutes ago, cj-ibbotson said:

I unfortunately am getting complete freezes at 2x as well. Only on nvidia FG in the sim. FSR works fine.

 You tried the settings in the nvidia app and it didn't work?

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
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1 hour ago, CarlosF said:

What nvidia driver?

If different then 572.83, then try this one.

Was using the latest driver last night. I even reinstalled it after switching the card from the former 3080ti

Chris Ibbotson

AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D / MSI AMD MPG x670E Carbon Motherboard / Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Gaming OC 32GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card / Corsair DOMINATOR Titanium RGB Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 / NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 - Fully Modular Low-Noise PC Gaming Power Supply - 1200 Watts - 80 PLUS Gold / 48” UltraGear™ UHD 4K OLED Gaming Monitor / 40" Philips 4K LED Monitor / Honeycomb Alpha Yoke / Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant / WinWing Orion Rudder Pedals c/w dampener / WinWing Ursa Minor Airline Joystick / WinWing Airbus MCDU

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3 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

 You tried the settings in the nvidia app and it didn't work?

Not installed app so far. Only got card fitted late last night and been in work all day. Will try app later see if that helps. I assumed since mfg built into card that any application can enablecand run it since appears in msfs menu

Chris Ibbotson

AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D / MSI AMD MPG x670E Carbon Motherboard / Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Gaming OC 32GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card / Corsair DOMINATOR Titanium RGB Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 / NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 - Fully Modular Low-Noise PC Gaming Power Supply - 1200 Watts - 80 PLUS Gold / 48” UltraGear™ UHD 4K OLED Gaming Monitor / 40" Philips 4K LED Monitor / Honeycomb Alpha Yoke / Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant / WinWing Orion Rudder Pedals c/w dampener / WinWing Ursa Minor Airline Joystick / WinWing Airbus MCDU

8 hours ago, cj-ibbotson said:

System specs: AMD 7800x3d, 64 Gb DDR5 6000 memory, RTX 5090.

Any ideas?  Do I need to enable it elsewhere like in the nVidia App (which I do not have installed)?

Chris

 

Same system specs here and I use 2x frame gen in MSFS 2024 no problems.

Latest Nvidia driver, 576.52 but no Nvidia app as I noticed it causing stutters in another game a couple of months ago so removed it. Might be improved now but if you don't need any of its features, then don't install it.

Do a clean driver install. Check system drivers are up to date as well:-

AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D Drivers

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Drebin27 said:

 

Same system specs here and I use 2x frame gen in MSFS 2024 no problems.

Latest Nvidia driver, 576.52 but no Nvidia app as I noticed it causing stutters in another game a couple of months ago so removed it. Might be improved now but if you don't need any of its features, then don't install it.

Do a clean driver install. Check system drivers are up to date as well:-

AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D Drivers

 

 

 

Nvidia drivers reinstalled last night after using DDU in safe mode. Amd, audio etc drivers updated last week.  incl BIOS. I'll reset Inspector settings and also restore default dlss as a test rather than latest. Will also try nVidia App to see if enabling it there will stop the freezes in sim. 

Chris Ibbotson

AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D / MSI AMD MPG x670E Carbon Motherboard / Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 Gaming OC 32GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card / Corsair DOMINATOR Titanium RGB Grey 64GB 6000MHz AMD EXPO DDR5 / NZXT C1200 Gold ATX 3.1 - Fully Modular Low-Noise PC Gaming Power Supply - 1200 Watts - 80 PLUS Gold / 48” UltraGear™ UHD 4K OLED Gaming Monitor / 40" Philips 4K LED Monitor / Honeycomb Alpha Yoke / Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant / WinWing Orion Rudder Pedals c/w dampener / WinWing Ursa Minor Airline Joystick / WinWing Airbus MCDU

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