Ok I will be interested in the tree lines for sure, America with current Simheaven needs some work

On 12/24/2025 at 7:31 AM, tonywob said:

Yep, I remember needing to clean this up extensively when using the same MS building footprint data to make the TrueEarth US regions.

Likely the same thing, i.e. OSM + MS Building data. The effort and bandwidth costs involved to generate and host these files inevitably led to them wanting to charge for it. So this doesn't surprise me, it was going to happen eventually

Orbx TE is 5+ years old yet it beats all visual addon in XP12 to date.  Is there any hope of future expansion? Is it the cost that prevents other developers from making similar product?

17 hours ago, Sims Smith said:

Orbx TE is 5+ years old yet it beats all visual addon in XP12 to date.  Is there any hope of future expansion? Is it the cost that prevents other developers from making similar product?

Since MFS was released a few years ago, interest for such products has hit a brick wall. Since such scenery is essentially free and worldwide in the other sim, it's difficult to compete with that and actually make any money despite some people still wanting to see new and updated regions.

Either way, I have most of Europe and large chunks of the US generated, but I'm waiting for the new scenery system before deciding what to do next and how to release this for people to use. The most important factor is being able to reduce the size of the scenery downloads and the regions, i.e. Either by streaming it in or allowing users to only grab the areas they want.

44 minutes ago, tonywob said:

Since MFS was released a few years ago, interest for such products has hit a brick wall. Since such scenery is essentially free and worldwide in the other sim, it's difficult to compete with that and actually make any money despite some people still wanting to see new and updated regions.

Either way, I have most of Europe and large chunks of the US generated, but I'm waiting for the new scenery system before deciding what to do next and how to release this for people to use. The most important factor is being able to reduce the size of the scenery downloads and the regions, i.e. Either by streaming it in or allowing users to only grab the areas they want.

No streaming please , i just need areas, i can get storage cheap why must i need fast internet for streaming , i just have my iphone and not interested in a sixable internet fee just to play a flight sim 

59 minutes ago, tonywob said:

I'm waiting for the new scenery system before deciding what to do next

The new scenery system could be years away, wouldn't it make more sense to release what you have now to take advantage of this gap?

41 minutes ago, peroni said:

The new scenery system could be years away, wouldn't it make more sense to release what you have now to take advantage of this gap?

The issue is not just limited to disk space, it's to do with the slow loading times and memory requirements, since all that data has to be loaded in large areas due to the legacy 1x1 tile system. If anyone has used TE Florida as an example, then they'll have experienced the super slow loading times caused by this. Whilst it looks good, this scenery is even more detailed than that, so for most users it's just not practical at present, especially for those who just fly liners. There are also lots of hacks I have to do to make features that work in the other sim, e.g. Having matching roof colours and shapes, tree colours matching ortho, etc that X-Plane simply doesn't support easily. IMO, people would just end up disappointed, especially if they can't run the scenery smoothly, even if it does look good.

1 hour ago, XMAN said:

No streaming please , i just need areas, i can get storage cheap why must i need fast internet for streaming , i just have my iphone and not interested in a sixable internet fee just to play a flight sim 

I'm not a fan either, so it would have to support both for those that don't mind the storage requirements.

 

 

I long for northern Spain to complete the country; I have the south, the Canary Islands, and the Balearic Islands...

Edited January 2Jan 2 by Aglos77

32 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

I long for northern Spain to complete the country; I have the south, the Canary Islands, and the Balearic Islands...

The northern coast looks really nice, one of the nicest areas to fly in

20 minutes ago, tonywob said:

The northern coast looks really nice, one of the nicest areas to fly in

 

That's just mean!  I don't care what anyone says, that is THE best scenery I've seen in a flight sim, EVER.

Edited January 2Jan 2 by GoranM

4 hours ago, tonywob said:

Since MFS was released a few years ago, interest for such products has hit a brick wall. Since such scenery is essentially free and worldwide in the other sim, it's difficult to compete with that and actually make any money despite some people still wanting to see new and updated regions.

Either way, I have most of Europe and large chunks of the US generated, but I'm waiting for the new scenery system before deciding what to do next and how to release this for people to use. The most important factor is being able to reduce the size of the scenery downloads and the regions, i.e. Either by streaming it in or allowing users to only grab the areas they want.

I have money waiting for you. 👍

Showing off the new Bilbao airport, @Litjan would be happy! 
You know now we will be bothering you every other day to release this scenery, actually make this EVERY day. 

Edited January 2Jan 2 by peroni

3 hours ago, XMAN said:

No streaming please , i just need areas, i can get storage cheap why must i need fast internet for streaming , i just have my iphone and not interested in a sixable internet fee just to play a flight sim 

You have to download it one way or another.

the Orbx TrueEarth sceneries seem to be around 100gb per region. Sometimes more (eg, S. Spain is 176gb).

Edited January 2Jan 2 by UrgentSiesta

2 hours ago, tonywob said:

If anyone has used TE Florida as an example, then they'll have experienced the super slow loading times caused by this.

I mainly fly low level because I like sightseeing, even if I’m usually in a jet.

AFAIK, I can’t remember having any issues with TE FL. 🤙

4 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

the Orbx TrueEarth sceneries seem to be around 100gb per region. Sometimes more (eg, S. Spain is 176gb).

You can get them down to 1/4 the size if opting for 2m/px imagery (ZL16), which I found is absolutely fine above 1500ft or so. I have the Canaries at 60cm (ZL18), but honestly I don't see the benefit too much unless on approach/departure.

 

4 minutes ago, tonywob said:

You can get them down to 1/4 the size if opting for 2m/px imagery (ZL16), which I found is absolutely fine above 1500ft or so. I have the Canaries at 60cm (ZL18), but honestly I don't see the benefit too much unless on approach/departure.

 

I did that once with TE GB. Worked fine until I got a new SSD and was able to enjoy them in their full HD 😁

Helo flying is what usually catches me out in terms of scenery - I might be at 5000 for awhile, but I’ll usually see something interesting and then I’m down at 200. It’s a curse, but one I enjoy 😎