11 hours ago, mSparks said:

About 10% slower on windows

2018 article ... times have changed A LOT since then.  Also depends a lot on the compression used (I don't do proxies either).

2 hours ago, mSparks said:

ntfs format is most of the problem, especially on ssds when it was designed for old and slow hdds.

Even HDD tech has come a very long way since that came out in 1993...

Yes just discovered this problem with the new installation even looking at an innoccuous file that is non LInux can corrupt the drive mounting on the fly and hang the whole thing. 

Now discovering how many weird and wonderful script solutions some of the commercial developers implemented with their addons which wreak Havoc on Linux XPlane and how much so called XPlane 12 stuff should be labelled " XPlane 12 Windows - not Linux or Mac" . I am starting to see why commercial software development is so hard especially for XPlane. 

That said quite a few dissappointments - now back to weeding out the stuff that should have that label on NOT MAC or LIN in XP12.

Edited December 25, 2025Dec 25 by coastaldriver

4 hours ago, tonywob said:

I've been using Macs for years (Since 2003), but I was looking at finally replacing my Macbook with a laptop running Linux (Dual-booting for Windows games, and Linux for work and X-Plane) and this might be the push I need to go for it. I was looking at these custom build laptops that are well supported on Linux https://frame.work/pl/en/laptop16. Sadly, it seems 32GB is the max RAM I can top out at (I currently have 96GB which I make good use of in Photoshop), which considering the price of RAM these days might be a downgrade somewhat. 

 

 

I’d be extremely reluctant to give up ram for raster processing, or anything graphics/3D/animation related, regardless of OS.

 

4 hours ago, SayAgain said:

2018 article ... times have changed A LOT since then.  Also depends a lot on the compression used (I don't do proxies either).

Yeah. Ball parking 

Windows 11 is 20 or 30% slower than windows 10.

Latest Linux builds are 50 or 60% faster than old kernels, especially on kit like AMDs epyc chips.

 

I have been a FreeBSD and Linux user since the 1990s, but honestly, for about the last five years, I have only been using Windows because I use my computer exclusively for gaming.

Unfortunately, you still have to give up a lot of things if you use operating systems other than Windows, and for me personally, it's not worth giving those things up.

2 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

exclusively for gaming.

Next hardware refresh get a quest 3 for gaming (or a PS5, or whatever is available then), PC hardware is a very expensive way to get a substandard gaming experience.

Just ordered my rtx5080, really looking forward to xplane VR when I get back from new year celebrations 🙂

Edited December 26, 2025Dec 26 by mSparks

58 minutes ago, mSparks said:

La próxima actualización de hardware es conseguir una Quest 3 para jugar (o una PS5, o lo que esté disponible en ese momento), el hardware de PC es una forma muy costosa de obtener una experiencia de juego deficiente.

Acabo de pedir mi rtx5080 y tengo muchas ganas de probar xplane VR cuando regrese de las celebraciones de Año Nuevo🙂

The most economical platform for gaming is a PC, and there are no alternatives to PCs for simulation. In any case, I'm not crazy about hardware; I don't need to always have the latest and greatest. I can easily go 10-12 years with the same hardware on XP12 and games on Steam on sale for £5-10. 

To give you an idea, I went from an Intel Core 2 Duo to an Intel 11700 i7 in my last hardware upgrade.

I'll leave the madness of spending thousands of dollars on hardware every few years to others, along with PlayStation games at crazy prices.

33 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

The most economical platform for gaming is a PC, and there are no alternatives to PCs for simulation. In any case, I'm not crazy about hardware; I don't need to always have the latest and greatest. I can easily go 10-12 years with the same hardware on XP12 and games on Steam on sale for £5-10. 

To give you an idea, I went from an Intel Core 2 Duo to an Intel 11700 i7 in my last hardware upgrade.

I'll leave the madness of spending thousands of dollars on hardware every few years to others, along with PlayStation games at crazy prices.

For simulation sure, but then for simulation and other compute heavy tasks windows has been a really really bad idea for at least a decade (been maybe 20 years iirc since there was an install in the top500 with windows on it).

Playstation games are generally cheaper than windows games, unless you are pirating them. Dont do that.

Sidenote, I was in the local games store yesterday before we went to the cinema (hamnet - slow start but 10/10), they dont even sell xbox or PC games anymore, only PS4,PS5 and switch.

Quest 3 is $300, you cannot buy even a PC graphics card to game on for that (and by the sounds of it, its better hardware than you have now...)

Edited December 26, 2025Dec 26 by mSparks

5 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

I have been a FreeBSD and Linux user since the 1990s, but honestly, for about the last five years, I have only been using Windows because I use my computer exclusively for gaming.

Unfortunately, you still have to give up a lot of things if you use operating systems other than Windows, and for me personally, it's not worth giving those things up.

Much like me but I only agree on "not worth" for Mac.

Quest 3 ? How does it compare to a Reverb G2?  I just sold my Reverb G2. I get dizzy and hate the heat and low resolution. I said to myself that I won't look at VR, before they are comparable to my skiing glasses.

That's funny. The g2 is still a mid-high resolution hmd. quest3 is the version that finally made it to that "high" range (ie they're about the same). The g2's curse was the rather small center sweet spot for non-blurry focus. If you want current "high", pimax is your answer.

Regarding GPU options for a Linux based simming desktop, would AMD be a better choice Over NVIDIA? 

I have an RTX 3060ti 8GB

4 hours ago, mSparks said:

Para simulación, seguro, pero para simulación y otras tareas de cálculo pesadas, Windows ha sido una muy mala idea durante al menos una década (han pasado quizás 20 años, si no recuerdo mal, desde que hubo una instalación en el top 500 con Windows).

Los juegos de PlayStation suelen ser más baratos que los de Windows, a menos que los piratees. No lo hagas.

Nota al margen, estuve en la tienda de juegos local ayer antes de ir al cine (Hamnet, comienzo lento pero 10/10), ya ni siquiera venden juegos de Xbox o PC, solo PS4, PS5 y Switch.

Quest 3 cuesta 300 dólares, ni siquiera puedes comprar una tarjeta gráfica de PC para jugar por ese precio (y por lo que parece, es mejor hardware que el que tienes ahora...)

No, computer games are much cheaper than PlayStation games. When you play new releases, there is a significant difference due to Sony or Microsoft royalties.

If you don't want the latest releases and wait for offers in key shops or on Steam, the savings are incredible. there's no question about it. I've had video game consoles since the Sega Master System, and even if you go to the second-hand market, nothing compares to the offers on Steam or stores like Instangaming, where after a few months you can get discounts of more than 50%. And if you wait a year or two, which is honestly recommended, since nowadays they release games that are embarrassing due to bugs and content fragmentation, you can buy complete games that are well patched and include all the DLC for the price of a simple airport in MFS or X-Plane.

 

 

5 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

I'll leave the madness of spending thousands of dollars on hardware every few years to others

What is mad about it?  Drives an economy, better performance, ability to increase visual fidelity, increase software purchase options (aka powerful enough system to run XYZ app).  I can't think of a good reason to NOT improve one's hardware unless their intended use case is just email, spreadsheets, and low complexity games.

I can understand your lack of motivation or desire, but I wouldn't suggest that as being someone else's madness.

18 hours ago, mSparks said:

Windows 11 is 20 or 30% slower than windows 10.

That's not entirely accurate and you don't provide any specific context.  There might be a very specific apps/processes where Win 10 might be faster than Windows 11 but also many tests where Win11 was faster and average performance overall was better under Win11.

 August 2025 article which they used a AMD 9950X3D (not sure why they introduced X3D since it's single CCD with 3D cache which means they need to make sure they have the correct BIOS, correct BIOS settings, updated AMD chipset drivers, and updated Win11 ... too much reliance on hardware updates to be a good test CPU).

https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-vs-windows-11-2025-performance-benchmarks-shows-holdouts-they-should-upgrade/

I have seen good performance for Linux (Nobara 41 aka Fedora) vs. Win 11 with MUCH older AMD GPUs (6800), but again limited to old hardware and not current hardware/GPUs.  

Either way, I would highly recommend folks get wet with Linux ... just be real careful with package sources.

Edited December 26, 2025Dec 26 by SayAgain

5 hours ago, SayAgain said:

 

That's not entirely accurate and you don't provide any specific context.  

 

JComm I cannot say one way or the other. I stayed away from AMD when I had my new PC (now 12 months old put together) because I looked at what the developers - P3D and LR were using and AMD's poor record of updates fixes etc, that's all. I just found the NVIDIA works better with an Intel multi-core CPU. 

Another thing I initially installed a Ubuntu distribution of Linux - discovered it was quite difficult to work with lets say not as intuitive as I expected and I found I had to resort to terminal mode to get even simple stuff done which meant me relearning command line syntax's etc - not that I minded but it was a pain so I reinstalled onto a different and more up to date distribution LinuxMint which for some reason suits me! Anyhow back to your question - the LinuxMint system allowed me to get the NVIDIA drivers properly installed and managed by the internals so that it uses and I can update the drivers automatically (But the windows NVIDIA settings application is gone). The issue with NVIDIA as I see it is drivers for Linux - they update them frequently but not necessarily for Linux or Macs. No big problem. Main thing with this done my log text for the installation is clean as a whistle for Vulcan video driver issues etc that is no error messages or workarounds!