I have noticed something after the 4.00.007 update of the PMDG 737-800 in MSFS 2024. I seem to be hearing the touchdown sound after the wheels have touched the ground. Like there is a 1 or 2 second delay before the sound kicks in. Is anyone else experiencing that?

6 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I have noticed something after the 4.00.007 update of the PMDG 737-800 in MSFS 2024. I seem to be hearing the touchdown sound after the wheels have touched the ground. Like there is a 1 or 2 second delay before the sound kicks in. Is anyone else experiencing that?

I guess they're trying to replicate the sound of the speedbrake deployment at touchdown. Quality control and testing are still missing. Unfortunately, their new sound "improvement" leaves a lot to be desired. Sound-wise, I have to say that the noise from the nose wheel scrubbing is quite convincing. 

35 minutes ago, LRBS said:

I guess they're trying to replicate the sound of the speedbrake deployment at touchdown. Quality control and testing are still missing. Unfortunately, their new sound "improvement" leaves a lot to be desired. Sound-wise, I have to say that the noise from the nose wheel scrubbing is quite convincing. 

I’ve gone back to Boris sounds.

The latest update seems to have made them worse. Even after retracting the speed break advance the throttle you get the speed break retraction sound.

2 hours ago, carlanthony24 said:

I’ve gone back to Boris sounds.

The latest update seems to have made them worse. Even after retracting the speed break advance the throttle you get the speed break retraction sound.

Something is wrong with them. Instead of addressing clear problems that impact the airplane's systems and aerodynamics, they tend to tinker with unnecessary components just to claim they made an effort. 

 

I think they lost an excellent programmer, Dr. Vaos (Vangelis) (sorry if I misspelled it).

 

Yes, IMHO, Boris's sounds are way better.

I didn't purchase the product myself, but from what I've heard on YouTube, there seems to be a noticeably positive difference.

Edited January 17Jan 17 by LRBS

9 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Is anyone else experiencing that?

Yes.

Yeah the Boris sounds are fantastic.  Not as good as his CRJ, but still very good.  

2 hours ago, micstatic said:

Yeah the Boris sounds are fantastic.  Not as good as his CRJ, but still very good.  

Hey! Curious, which part do you think can use improvement? I'm always happy to take feedback 

4 hours ago, Boris Vanian said:

Hey! Curious, which part do you think can use improvement? I'm always happy to take feedback 

I would suggest, if I may, that when you turn those switches on or off, if we don't have the packs on, the sound is quite all right. When the packs are on and all that air is blowing inside, turning the switches on or off, the noise is almost drowned out by the hissing of the air in the cockpit. Maybe you could turn it down by 10%; hopefully, people will not go crazy. Honestly, they are barely heard in the cockpit with packs on during climb-out or at high cruise Mach numbers. 

2 hours ago, LRBS said:

I would suggest, if I may, that when you turn those switches on or off, if we don't have the packs on, the sound is quite all right. When the packs are on and all that air is blowing inside, turning the switches on or off, the noise is almost drowned out by the hissing of the air in the cockpit. Maybe you could turn it down by 10%; hopefully, people will not go crazy. Honestly, they are barely heard in the cockpit with packs on during climb-out or at high cruise Mach numbers. 

That's completely intentional and how it is IRL, the switches are not that loud compared to the rest of the noise. Airplanes are loud machines.

3 hours ago, LRBS said:

I would suggest, if I may, that when you turn those switches on or off, if we don't have the packs on, the sound is quite all right. When the packs are on and all that air is blowing inside, turning the switches on or off, the noise is almost drowned out by the hissing of the air in the cockpit. Maybe you could turn it down by 10%; hopefully, people will not go crazy. Honestly, they are barely heard in the cockpit with packs on during climb-out or at high cruise Mach numbers. 

Thats one of my favorite things about it lol.  Do you really think you would be able to hear the heading bug at cruise in the cockpit of a 737?

22 minutes ago, Pilot53 said:

Thats one of my favorite things about it lol.  Do you really think you would be able to hear the heading bug at cruise in the cockpit of a 737?

Exactly right. And you wonder with all these issues if they actually have any real pilots helping out. For sure, there is one on YouTube that can't seem to be bothered by anything and pretends that everything is sooooo good to the point of being ridiculous. I mean, there is no perfect software, but somehow this PMDG is exceeding any expectations lately. I don't know what it will take for RSR to wake up and realize how embarrassing this can be. 

13 hours ago, Boris Vanian said:

Hey! Curious, which part do you think can use improvement? I'm always happy to take feedback 

Was not meant to be critical at all. I love all your packages. There is just something about the crj where I hear it and say “oh yeah. That’s a crj”

I actually really like the new PMDG sounds for the 737-800. Having mentioned the delayed touchdown sound, I have completed several landings today that did not even seem to include that particular sound at all!! Only the light "swish" evident in the previous version, followed by the thrust reversers engaging. Whatever the case, I think that this update has improved the "buzzsaw" sound of the engines from the cockpit. That sounded a bit too loud to me in version 4.00.005, but they seem to have toned it down now.

Whilst on the subject of engine sounds (and since Boris is clearly reading this thread), I would like to ask a question regarding the sound of the 777F GE90 engines from the VC. I have listened to the sound of 777s taxiing, departing and landing hundreds of times from an external standpoint, and those GE90s have always had a distinctive HOWL. My question is......do these sound different from inside the cockpit? The reason I ask is because they have more of a WHINE with the Boris Soundworks package installed (as heard from the VC). I was expecting this to be much more like the howl that I know so well.

Edited January 18Jan 18 by Christopher Low

On 1/17/2026 at 5:20 AM, carlanthony24 said:

Even after retracting the speed break advance the throttle you get the speed break retraction sound.

This is actually not necessarily wrong.  If the speed brake was auto-deployed (because you had it armed for landing, or because of reverse thrust actuation) and then subsequently manually stowed when clearing the runway, the auto speed brake actuator isn't retracted.  It does not retract until the throttles are moved forward beyond a certain angle, and then you will hear the auto speed brake actuator retract.  It sounds the same whether it's actually moving the lever or not... So yes, you'll hear the "speed brake retraction" sound, even though the lever has already been manually stowed. 

You'll also hear this sound sometimes after takeoff (it's louder in some aircraft than others) when it goes through a self-test cycle. 

If PMDG is simulating the logic of the system correctly, that's actually a plus for them.  I can't test it personally as I haven't seen a reason to install the PMDG for 2024, but maybe someone can do some experimenting.

8 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

This is actually not necessarily wrong.  If the speed brake was auto-deployed (because you had it armed for landing, or because of reverse thrust actuation) and then subsequently manually stowed when clearing the runway, the auto speed brake actuator isn't retracted.  It does not retract until the throttles are moved forward beyond a certain angle, and then you will hear the auto speed brake actuator retract.  It sounds the same whether it's actually moving the lever or not... So yes, you'll hear the "speed brake retraction" sound, even though the lever has already been manually stowed. 

You'll also hear this sound sometimes after takeoff (it's louder in some aircraft than others) when it goes through a self-test cycle. 

If PMDG is simulating the logic of the system correctly, that's actually a plus for them.  I can't test it personally as I haven't seen a reason to install the PMDG for 2024, but maybe someone can do some experimenting.

Thank you for the info.