I’d just offer the following observation made as constructive feedback.

You’re correct about widebody oversteer , however on that particular video the aircraft are joining the runway centre line at 45 degrees so in that instance they are just following the yellow line onto the RW centreline and so wouldn’t need use judgmental oversteer .

It’s when joining at 90 degrees we’d use oversteer.

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38 minutes ago, jon b said:

I’d just offer the following observation made as constructive feedback.

You’re correct about widebody oversteer , however on that particular video the aircraft are joining the runway centre line at 45 degrees so in that instance they are just following the yellow line onto the RW centreline and so wouldn’t need use judgmental oversteer .

It’s when joining at 90 degrees we’d use oversteer.

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Just to add to the complexity, those centreline lights leading out onto the runway are actually used for when vacating the runway and not for lining up on the runway. You can see how much runway is left behind by following them onto the runway.

Yes, a good point Steve

Hi Captains,

Thanks a million times for all those technical comments. They are all added to our development backlog. This time I will share a short video (sorry for the quality, it was shot couple of weeks ago in one of our development machines, not on a regular simulator machine)

In this video, we want to show you how the AI traffic behaves to crosswind landings. A longer and more detailed version is coming up with all the development stuff that we've done after this video was shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDn1CwxO74o

I hope you're gonna like it, and from now on we're moving into more serious stuff. In the upcoming days you will see the ATCo radar and how the "brain" reacts to traffics around the airport that you are currently flying. (Not the next video btw, don't roast me if the next video is not ATCo video) :D

@jon b @cowpatz

Good point Steve, and thank you Jon for confirming it too.

This is exactly the kind of airport-specific operational detail we need to capture. The sim graph can tell us what is physically connected, but it does not always tell us whether a path should be used for entering the runway, vacating it, or both.

I’ll add this to our airport profile logic. Runway lead-off / vacating guidance should not automatically be treated as a valid line-up route just because it connects to the runway.

Really appreciate this kind of feedback, this is where the system gets better.

I don't know whether or not you really need to go into that level of detail with an AI system, but that is your decision, I just raised it for awareness. It seems you have nailed the crosswind landings. Any particular reason the last couple of videos are at night?

1 minute ago, cowpatz said:

I don't know whether or not you really need to go into that level of detail with an AI system, but that is your decision, I just raised it for awareness. It seems you have nailed the crosswind landings. Any particular reason the last couple of videos are at night?

I just love the strobe lights that's the reason (: and yes the main reason why we started this project was just the level of realism. And I have some good news, 2 airbus and 1 boeing 737 pilot just joined the team today. They have loved the project and we will be working with them starting next week.

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12 minutes ago, anilcougar said:

If you have watched the movie "Prestige" you will understand me.

Obsession or trickery? 🙂

Just now, cowpatz said:

Obsession or trickery? 🙂

Obsession my man! Because this aviation love is like a disease that flows in my system everyday.

Out of interest which airport and runway was the line up video 3 taken at?

12 hours ago, anilcougar said:

Hi Captains,

Thanks a million times for all those technical comments. They are all added to our development backlog. This time I will share a short video (sorry for the quality, it was shot couple of weeks ago in one of our development machines, not on a regular simulator machine)

In this video, we want to show you how the AI traffic behaves to crosswind landings. A longer and more detailed version is coming up with all the development stuff that we've done after this video was shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDn1CwxO74o

I hope you're gonna like it, and from now on we're moving into more serious stuff. In the upcoming days you will see the ATCo radar and how the "brain" reacts to traffics around the airport that you are currently flying. (Not the next video btw, don't roast me if the next video is not ATCo video) :D

I like the crabbed attitude, transitioning to wing down by the looks of it? Difficult to see, but it looked like the wing down attitude might be a bit overcooked? Can you share any info about whether the geometry is calculated and how please?

That AI plane looked extremely low on the approach, or was it just an optical illusion caused by the elevated viewpoint? It almost looked like it was going to touch down before the displaced threshold.

Edited Sunday at 01:41 PM2 days by Christopher Low

8 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

That AI plane looked extremely low on the approach, or was it just an optical illusion caused by the elevated viewpoint? It almost looked like it was going to touch down before the displaced threshold.

You know what, we have debated for this issue for hours with the dev team. Then we found out that the focal lens of the drone camera is different from the one that was used in background and cockpit camera. Judging with the altitude data coming from the logs, we believe the AI aircraft is not that low. But we're open to discussion in here and we're planning to release a cockpit video watching the aircraft land. I believe that will be the best approach to fine tune it.

9 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

I like the crabbed attitude, transitioning to wing down by the looks of it? Difficult to see, but it looked like the wing down attitude might be a bit overcooked? Can you share any info about whether the geometry is calculated and how please?

You may be right but there's another thing to that approach. There are main 4 techniques when landing in crosswind (Real aviators please correct me if I'm wrong)

1. Crab / de-crab
2. Wing-low / sideslip
3. Crab + partial de-crab + wing-low combination
4. Residual crab

This one was using the wing-low sideslip technique that's why it might have looked a bit close to the ground, but this video was shot before 3 real-world aviators joined in. (2 Airbus and 1 Boeing 737 captains joined btw) Now we'll fine tune it properly.

And yes, all AI aircraft pilots will have a way of landing in crosswind. And before you ask, let me answer all of you. Everytime you watch a landing of an AI aicraft you will see a different technique.