9 hours ago, jon b said:

Out of interest which airport and runway was the line up video 3 taken at?

That's LGAV. My all time favorite

And guys... This new WIP is coming from our ATC radar screen. Still in development but will give you a honest idea how much detail we are planning and trying to put together.

I hope now you are feeling me when I say "Something very different is coming"

/Anil

31 minutes ago, anilcougar said:

You know what, we have debated for this issue for hours with the dev team. Then we found out that the focal lens of the drone camera is different from the one that was used in background and cockpit camera. Judging with the altitude data coming from the logs, we believe the AI aircraft is not that low. But we're open to discussion in here and we're planning to release a cockpit video watching the aircraft land. I believe that will be the best approach to fine tune it.

As long as the papi lights are good😁

10 minutes ago, anilcougar said:

And guys... This new WIP is coming from our ATC radar screen. Still in development but will give you a honest idea how much detail we are planning and trying to put together.

I hope now you are feeling me when I say "Something very different is coming"

/Anil

Can’t see a thing, this image service is blocked in the UK. The UK probably contains a lot of your future customers, so I’d recommend a different image host.

18 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Can’t see a thing, this image service is blocked in the UK. The UK probably contains a lot of your future customers, so I’d recommend a different image host.

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How about this one? And you are right I should move image sharing stuff to our own CDN

43 minutes ago, anilcougar said:

That's LGAV. My all time favorite

Ok.

It was just for my own curiosity, as Steve @cowpatz alluded to technically performance data is normally predicated on a 90 degree line up, except where you you have specific taxiway geometry that precludes or makes that difficult and that would be annotated in the performance data, if you know here to look !I just checked for LGAV 03L A1 which Im guessing is the runway in the video and the Boeing performance data is indeed predicated on 90 degrees for that intersection, it looked such an acute angle I thought it might have been an exception.

Regarding the sideslip technique for crosswind landings, they tend to be less popular on low wing aircraft with engines under slung on the wing for ground clearance, some still use side slip be they have to be careful with that up wind engine. It depends on what the individual aircraft type manuals say I’m just generalising, but anything much over 5 degrees on some jets will cause issues

Edited Sunday at 10:56 PM1 day by jon b

2 minutes ago, jon b said:

Regarding the sideslip technique for crosswind landings, they tend to be less popular on aircraft with engines under slung on the wing for ground clearance, some still use side slip be they have to be careful with that up wind engine. It depends on what the individual aircraft type manuals say I’m just generalising, but anything much over 5 degrees on some jets will cause issues

Precisely why I said it looked a little overcooked earlier and asked about if/how it was calculated. Note that question was highly specific but avoided...

Edited Sunday at 10:59 PM1 day by kevinfirth

25 minutes ago, anilcougar said:

Freeimage.host

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How about this one? And you are right I should move image sharing stuff to our own CDN

Like this.

2 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Precisely why I said it looked a little overcooked earlier and asked about if/how it was calculated. Note that question was highly specific but avoided...

No no it's not avoided. I'm just waiting for a explanation from the dev-team. Don't worry man. I'm not avoiding anybody in here

12 minutes ago, jon b said:

Ok.

It was just for my own curiosity, as Steve @cowpatz alluded to technically performance data is normally predicated on a 90 degree line up, except where you you have specific taxiway geometry that precludes or makes that difficult and that would be annotated in the performance data, if you know here to look !I just checked for LGAV 03L A1 which Im guessing is the runway in the video and the Boeing performance data is indeed predicated on 90 degrees for that intersection, it looked such an acute angle I thought it might have been an exception.

Regarding the sideslip technique for crosswind landings, they tend to be less popular on low wing aircraft with engines under slung on the wing for ground clearance, some still use side slip be they have to be careful with that up wind engine. It depends on what the individual aircraft type manuals say I’m just generalising, but anything much over 5 degrees on some jets will cause issues

Thanks Jon, and I really appreciate you checking that.

Small correction from my side: the runway in the video was actually LGAV 21L, not 03L. I’ll double check the exact intersection as well, because your point still stands and it is exactly the kind of detail we need to capture.

The sim graph can show us what is physically connected, but that does not automatically mean it is operationally correct for a runway entry or line-up. Performance assumptions, intersection geometry and local annotations are a different layer.

This is something we are adding to the airport profile logic. A runway entry should not be treated as valid just because the graph allows it. The system needs to understand whether the geometry makes sense for line-up, vacating, or both.

This is exactly why this kind of feedback is so valuable to us, especially from someone who knows where to look for these things.

Really appreciate it.

ps: i will update you for the wing down issue when it is verified with the dev team. But i've double checked the logs, it says it's down like 1.8 degrees. The good news is we can tune it, because we're creating this app in a extremely modular way, everything can be changed and fine-tuned properly.

Crosswind landing technique is one of those bar room topics and each have their own ideas. Turbo prop technique may be quite different to a jet with low underslung engines. Obviously the more time spent decrabbing prior to touchdown means more time spent possibly drifting off downwind and with “crossed controls” making corrections awkward . Technique does tend to vary with the degree of crosswind component. In a medium to heavy jet in light winds you can decrab and wing down (if needed) relatively easily, but when approaching the max demonstrated limit a lot more comes into play. To decrab at the last minute would required significant rudder input which would cause a rolling moment which would lift the into wind wing, which is undesirable. This would require aileron input to counter, as well as to lower the into wind wing slightly. This can be tricky to judge and end up with an undesirable attitude. The same goes for a wing down, no crab approach. Ok in light cross winds but just inviting trouble when near the max. Major cross controls with possible spoiler deployment to cope with as well. What worked well for me over the years, when faced with a strong crosswind, was to crab down the approach, and then when on quite a short final (just prior to the threshold) to take up to half of the crab angle off and hold the rudder there. Just prior to touchdown I’d review the situation ie steady or gusty crosswind and whether a wet, contaminated or dry runway. Wet I’d leave the crab angle, flare and either go wings level or up to 5 degrees wing down into wind. Contaminated, just land fully crabbed. It’s one thing touching down but a different ball game when trying to maintain the runway centreline afterwards. When landing crabbed, the gear geometry will assist in “yawing” the nose back toward the centreline. Different flap setting and non-normal aircraft configurations may require variations to the norm as well.

This would certainly add a great deal of complexity to your modelling, so you may have to just settle on a compromise for all conditions.

Edited yesterday at 12:58 AM1 day by cowpatz

27 minutes ago, cowpatz said:

Crosswind landing technique is one of those bar room topics and each have their own ideas. Turbo prop technique may be quite different to a jet with low underslung engines. Obviously the more time spent decrabbing prior to touchdown means more time spent possibly drifting off downwind and with “crossed controls” making corrections awkward . Technique does tend to vary with the degree of crosswind component. In a medium to heavy jet in light winds you can decrab and wing down (if needed) relatively easily, but when approaching the max demonstrated limit a lot more comes into play. To decrab at the last minute would required significant rudder input which would cause a rolling moment which would lift the into wind wing, which is undesirable. This would require aileron input to counter, as well as to lower the into wind wing slightly. This can be tricky to judge and end up with an undesirable attitude. The same goes for a wing down, no crab approach. Ok in light cross winds but just inviting trouble when near the max. Major cross controls with possible spoiler deployment to cope with as well. What worked well for me over the years, when faced with a strong crosswind, was to crab down the approach, and then when on quite a short final (just prior to the threshold) to take up to half of the crab angle off and hold the rudder there. Just prior to touchdown I’d review the situation ie steady or gusty crosswind and whether a wet, contaminated or dry runway. Wet I’d leave the crab angle, flare and either go wings level or up to 5 degrees wing down into wind. Contaminated, just land fully crabbed. It’s one thing touching down but a different ball game when trying to maintain the runway centreline afterwards. When landing crabbed, the gear geometry will assist in “yawing” the nose back toward the centreline. Different flap setting and non-normal aircraft configurations may require variations to the norm as well.

This would certainly add a great deal of complexity to your modelling, so you may have to just settle on a compromise for all conditions.

Now we talking... Because this is the exact way I want this thread to move forward. People judged me for being an AI, some people did detective work about my company, some said this thing is a "vaporwave" some even had some beliefs about how much money that we're gonna charge.

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Let's talk the details, because I really want to create something for the simulator world that we can use everyday. Because I'm really fed up with robotic movement AI Traffics and unrealistic ATC chatters.

Anyways... Thanks a million times Steve. I owe you the best!

/Anil

1 hour ago, anilcougar said:

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Let's talk the details, because I really want to create something for the simulator world that we can use everyday. Because I'm really fed up with robotic movement AI Traffics and unrealistic ATC chatters.

Details are great but how about fundamentals. We haven't really seen how you would tackle the actual ATC part.

Personally I'd love to hear how you would approach ATC differently to the likes of SayIntentions and BATC. That's not meant to be confrontational at all – I'm genuinely curious and it would go a long way to generate interest. I purchased every single ATC tool since XP10 came out, it's a big part of the flight sim experience for me. And hey, it's great that the once forgotten genre of flight sim tools has this many new competitors and so much innovation.

But you know, is it voice based or button?
Will you support both IFR and VFR from launch or only one of those?
Will you support the entire world or just US?
Would it support failures?
Is it built around simbrief or works independently?
Does it work off a flight plan or is it more ambient (like MSFS ATC)?
Are you relying on AFCAD data for taxiways or your own solution?
Would you handle historic weather or only real time?
Is some sort of multiplayer planned? Or is it player only?
What sort of features could we expect from the very first release?

Edited yesterday at 03:15 AM1 day by Georgleboui

59 minutes ago, Georgleboui said:

We haven't really seen

...anything other than a tiny handful of grainy videos - and a big mouthful of marketing boilerplate. 😁

35 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

...anything other than a tiny handful of grainy videos - and a big mouthful of marketing boilerplate. 😁

I'm not sure that's entirely fair.

Some of what's been shown certainly implies that the dev has a genuine intent to provide some degree of realism not yet seen anywhere else. Props for that.

Yes, any final product will still need to stand up to scrutiny as regards a whole lot of fundamentals with regard to ATC ops, that's fair comment... But I think we can acknowledge that without being unnecessarily harsh can we not?

I'd like to see daytime videos please in the future. Yes I know you like the lighting but we need to be able to see and assess visual detail please 🙂