16 hours ago16 hr Author Commercial Member https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpliMQSYhWgHi Caps,Here comes the second WIP-002 video of the series.Before the video, I want to say something very clearly.I opened this topic because I wanted to share the development of this project with other simmers. Not with marketing words, not with a polished trailer, but with actual WIP videos. Step by step. Task by task.The idea was simple: show what we are building, get feedback from people who actually care about ATC and AI traffic, and hopefully create something better with the help of AVSIM.But honestly, some of the reactions here are becoming very hard to understand.The first video was clearly about one thing: aircraft movement.It was not the final product.It was not the final UI.It was not the final voice system.It was not the full ATC logic.It was not traffic density.It was not a release trailer.It was one WIP video about one task.Still, some people replied as if I had claimed “this is the complete product”. Some people started talking about vaporware, subscriptions, company website, AI coding, developer background, maintainability, and almost everything else except the actual thing being shown.That is not technical feedback.That is noise.And I will be very direct now. If this continues, if every WIP video turns into people judging a product they have not seen yet, then I will simply stop sharing WIP videos here until the final product is ready.Because there is no point in sharing unfinished development footage if some people are going to treat every unfinished part as final evidence against the whole project.If the movement looks wrong, say it.If the aircraft turns badly, say it.If the taxi behaviour does not look realistic, say it.If something in the video is technically weak, say it.That kind of feedback is useful. I can respect that. Actually, I want that.But if the point is only to ignore what is being shown, not read what I wrote, and then create a negative story around the project, the company, the team or the final product, then I am not going to feed that anymore.There are many seperate tasks in this project. Movement, traffic injection, airport graph handling, runway logic, voice, CPDLC, AI brain, ground operations, emergency handling, handoffs and more. Some of those parts are already in testing. Some are still being built. Some will be shown later.We are showing them one by one because that is how development works.[nerd data incoming]We are not building this as one giant fragile script where everything is hardwired together.The system is being built in a modular way. The ATC brain, simulator adapter, movement engine, voice layer, traffic layer and other parts are separated as much as possible. That matters because if something breaks, the goal is not to rewrite the whole product. The goal is to fix the responsible part.So no, this is not “AI made a magic addon”.This is software development.And software development means building one layer, testing it, finding ugly edge cases, fixing them, and moving to the next layer.[/nerd data incoming]The first movement engine video was made using our own movement logic, not the simulator's default AI movement. That was one of the first big challenges.You have to deal with taxiway geometry, turn radius, elevation changes, aircraft size, speed, braking, smooth acceleration, and a lot of boring things that users should never have to think about, but the system has to handle.Not all airports are flat.Not all taxiways are clean.Not all scenery data is perfect.For example, when this product is ready, take your favorite aircraft to VNLK and just watch how AI traffic behaves there. That is the kind of airport where you really understand why movement is not a small detail.This is the level of behaviour we are trying to build towards.And that is also why I started with movement. Because without believable ground movement, nothing else matters. You can have the best voice system in the world, but if the aircraft moves like a toy, the immersion is gone.The first video I shared was older footage. This one is also not from today. There is a reason for that. I want to show the progress in a sequence, not just throw random clips and call it a day.This next video is still WIP.It is still not the full ATC product.The focus is aircraft ground movement and the next step of airport flow.Bigger aircraft.Smoother turns.Better ground behaviour.More believable movement.And yes, I want feedback about this. Real feedback. Good-will feedback. Technical feedback. The kind of feedback that can make the product beter for all of us.But I am not interested in defending myself against assumptions every two pages.I am a simmer too. I am one of you. I am not standing outside this community trying to sell some random hype to you. I want this product because I want to use it myself. I want better ATC in the sim. I want better traffic. I want airports to feel alive.About subscription, I already explained this before, but I will say it again shortly.I know many people do not like subscriptions. I am not in love with them either. My other product, SimPassengers, is a one-time payment product because that product can work that way.This one is different because there are ongoing systems behind it, and those systems cost real money to run. A lot of money, actually.But even there, I already said we are thinking about lighter options for people who do not fly very often. Nothing is final yet. When it is final, I will explain it clearly. I am not hiding that.What I do not accept is people turning every unfinished WIP video into a full judgement about the whole project, the company, the team, the business model, and even who is or is not a “real developer”.That is not fair criticism.That is deciding the conclusion first, then looking for something to attach it to.So from this point, I will keep sharing selected WIP videos only if the discussion stays useful.If you want to give technical feedback, I will read it.If you want to point out something wrong in the video, I will read it.If you want to ask a real technical question, I will try to answer it.But if this turns into constant negativity and criticism of things that have not even been shown yet, then I will stop sharing WIP updates here and simply come back when the final product is ready.That is not a threat. It is just the only healthy way to continue building without wasting development time on assumptions.Anyway, this is WIP-002.It is not final UI.It is not final voice.It is not final traffic density.It is not the full product.It is another step in showing how the movement and airport behaviour layer is developing.Please judge the video for what it actually shows.With <3/Anil Edited 16 hours ago16 hr by anilcougar Anil Ardahanli Computer Science BsC :: Sindel Aviation (Niner Wings) PPL // CPL // IR // ME // ATP CEO & Co-Founder of ACE-Solutions https://ace-solutions.io
16 hours ago16 hr Engage with those who you feel have given constructive feedback. Ignore those that don’t. You will not stop negative feedback because this is the internet. Your choice on who to engage with. Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
15 hours ago15 hr Author Commercial Member 10 minutes ago, Gilandred said:Engage with those who you feel have given constructive feedback. Ignore those that don’t. You will not stop negative feedback because this is the internet. Your choice on who to engage with.Well said sir! Thank you! ❤️ Anil Ardahanli Computer Science BsC :: Sindel Aviation (Niner Wings) PPL // CPL // IR // ME // ATP CEO & Co-Founder of ACE-Solutions https://ace-solutions.io
15 hours ago15 hr 17 minutes ago, anilcougar said:I opened this topic because I wanted to share the development of this project with other simmers. Not with marketing words, not with a polished trailer, but with actual WIP videos. Step by step. Task by task.It just feels like you're a bit too early. A bit like those slightly naive posts where a brand new development team announces an ambitious new airliner with a grey box render of some landing gear.Ultimately, what are we supposed to react to here? It is not final UI - you're not showing any.It is not final voice - you're not showing any.It is not final traffic density - guess what?It is not the full product - very clearly not.There's a very lofty original post full of promises but as anyone with development experience and those keeping an eye on the monumental work done by SI and BATC teams – big words are the easy part.I'm not dunking on you by any means, I think it's great that there may be a new player in the ATC space. It's just obvious why you're getting the reaction you're getting.You talk about wanting to build an AI ATC that's really flexible, knows aviation and feels like you're talking to real people. That's great, and if you would have come in with a short video – a vertical slice of some interaction that demonstrates what you're talking about – the reaction would have been different. Hell, it could have even just been a mockup to demonstrate what the vision is. Something for people to react to. Instead just looks like you got the equivalent of a grey box landing gear and lofty promises.
15 hours ago15 hr Do you not think these points have already been made? Give it a rest and just see what happens. Who in their right mind would want to share initial product idea/developments on this forum? He's not asking for your cash. Poor show indeed chaps. Cheers Steve Hall
14 hours ago14 hr This sounds very good Anil!I was thinking too (probably a pipe dream!!) but how cool would it be to have live traffic (however you get that) and at the same time have Live ATC comms injected form the actual feed (liveatc.net) at that airport so you could hear Ground, Tower, Control, Centre etc if you tuned to those freq's! Also, there is a distinctive lack of people around AI aircraft.. wonder if that is addressable?Looking forward to what you have in store! i9 13900KF @ 5.5Ghz | MoBo MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi | Corsair Vengeance Black RGB RS 64gb DDR4 3200MHz | MSI GeForce RTX 5090 Vanguard SOC 32GB | MP33 Pro 1TB M.2-2280 NVME SSD for OS | Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" 4TB SSD SATA2 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB | Corsair RM1000X 2021 1300W 80 Plus Gold PSU | Antec Dark Fleet DF700 Flux Gaming Case | Win 11 home | Samsung 65" 4K TV | G512 Keyboard | Razer Basilisk V2 Mouse | WinCtrl URSA MINOR 32 Throttle Metal / 32 PAC Metal | WinCtrl Ursa Minor Sidestick |Velocity One Rudder | MiniCockpit FCU and EFIS | WinCtrl MCDU | Stream Deck XL | Tobii Eye Tracker | Pimax Crystal Light | Doug
8 hours ago8 hr 7 hours ago, anilcougar said:I opened this topic because I wanted to share the development of this project with other simmers. Not with marketing words, not with a polished trailer, but with actual WIP videos. Step by step. Task by task.The idea was simple: show what we are building, get feedback from people who actually care about ATC and AI traffic, and hopefully create something better with the help of AVSIM.Well, this sounds slightly different than the initial post, no? If you go back and read what you wrote there, you should understand the answers it triggered. Would have been wiser to start off with this post above instead of the one you actually did.Anyway, back to topic: can you already say something about the AI planes you use in your WIP videos? Are those MSFS default? FSLTL? AIG? Or something else? Because those lights in the WIP-002 are looking good ;-) Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
7 hours ago7 hr Hello,Do you think it possible to have ai plane switch off taxi light during their stop and when the first plane moove, other don t moove at the same time ?Merci Frédéric Giraud
4 hours ago4 hr This reminds me a bit of the justice system in the western world. It should be "innocent until proven guilty", but often it sounds like "guilty until proven innocent". Maybe something to think about before flaming the OP.As for the product itself, I would love to have an AI/ATC system that behaves at least as good as that in P3D at and around airports. If this product can achieve that, then I am interested. AI planes that taxi realistically (including up and down slopes), wait for other AI planes to clear, use the correct runways, do not use any other runways unless this is logical behaviour, and realistic arrival and departure animations (rotation/flare etc).Oh, and visible landing gear would be a BIG bonus 😉😄 Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
3 hours ago3 hr On 6/8/2026 at 5:00 PM, DD_Arthur said:Wow! They've got Amelia Earheart and Glenn Miller.Impressed🫡Howard Hughes? lol Dave Kalin Excel Classes Computer Lessons
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