4 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Just an important caveat about the LIDO charts - it's only for airports which an airliner would fly into. So if you do General Aviation (and you fly outside of the USA, because FAA charts covers that area), you won't have any charts.

Indeed. LIDO covers almost NO airports that I actually fly into as a GA flyer, and while the sim does provide FAA charts in the US for the (many) airports not covered by LIDO, it doesn't provide similar options in other countries. I also prefer Jepp to LIDO and definitely prefer them to FAA charts.

The LIDO offerings may be great for many scheduled airline flights, but they are pretty much a non starter for me. And with all of the other tools and integrations offered by Navigraph I find my sub one of the best values in simming.

YMMV, of course, depending on the kind of flying you do.

Scott

24 minutes ago, tttocs said:

And with all of the other tools and integrations offered by Navigraph I find my sub one of the best values in simming.

Yep, I did a screenshot post a few days ago and showed off a little of their app - it's really useful and laid out quite well. I absolutely understand that some people abhor subscriptions, but this is pretty cheap for what you get. It really is a cup of (nice) coffee per month.

I don't want to discard the incredible work WorkingTitle has done either, and the partnership between Lido and Microsoft - impressive they pulled that off. The native flightplanner/efb is pretty decent as well.

I've checked the position of PMDG and very sadly from Mathijs:

We do not plan this at this moment. We are very much linked to the fantastic Navigraph total infrastructure. Sorry.

I am sorry we can not please you with this. Of course you can just use the standard MSFS EFB.

We are sorry we are unable to please you in this aspect. We have, in our opinion, good reasons not to go this route, and we have no plans to change this.

I notice that more and more PMDG is very reluctant to innovation and change.

Yeah, why would anyone ever give customers options to switch. They are way to busy selling the same thing overpriced again and again.

I'm done with PMDG.

If you have the money to spare, then Navigraph is the best. Jep charts are the best.

Having said that, I don't see a reason why I need to spend $90 a year on a flight planner and charts when I already have an excellent flight planner and access to charts. I prefer to spend it on payware airports or aircraft.

It's also ridiculous that aircraft devs are selling add-ons that are supposed to be v2024 compatible, but they want us to spend additional money on a planner, when the default is good enough.

Unfortunately, most customers settle without thought and don't demand the compatibility that they paid for.

My Carenado PC-24 cost me $15 and it supports LIDO charts.

3 hours ago, CFIJose said:

Jep charts are the best

No they are not. For Airliners LIDO are better. The layout is easier and more logical, the briefings are easier to read and the minima being rounded up to the next decimal make more sense like the Jeppesen minima.

But Jeppesen is better for GA and smaller Aircraft that don't fall into C and D minima category.

50 minutes ago, Farlis said:

But Jeppesen is better for GA and smaller Aircraft that don't fall into C and D minima category.

Not just better, but necessary. Another reason why, as a GA flyer, Jepp is the right choice. Yep, if you fly airliners, the LIDO charts are arguably better... because they're designed specifically for the big iron and omit data (and airports!) needed for small to medium GA.

It's not a question of which is "better", so much as it is one of which is the most appropriate for what each of us fly.

I've got nothing against LIDO, but I still believe it to be the poorer overall choice for a sim like MSFS with its wide audience and whole world coverage. LIDO is for big iron flying to and from large airports. Jepp covers far more aircraft types and fields.

Scott

2 hours ago, tttocs said:

It's not a question of which is "better", so much as it is one of which is the most appropriate for what each of us fly.

I agree it's not a question of which is better but I feel in the context of this discussion it's about having the choice to use one or the other.

More and more developers are taking up the opportunity offered by what Working Title have created with their excellent flight planner and LIDO charts.

For PMDG the idea of going somewhere they haven't been two or three times before seems beyond them...

On 6/29/2026 at 5:55 PM, Tuskin38 said:

Even then there are some missing. Like Dundee, Scotland.

Though for some reason it has charts for CFS Alert in Canada, which is a military only station??

Navigraph definitely does have charts for Dundee, Scotland. IATA code DND

4 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

Navigraph definitely does have charts for Dundee, Scotland. IATA code DND

I was referring to LIDO

On 6/29/2026 at 4:27 AM, Simicro said:

Hello Mates,

I have a Navigraph subscription and in my PMDG planes (777, 3727) I can consult Jeppesen Charts in the EFB .

However in the iniBuilds A350, I can choose LIDO Charts, which I prefer.

I was wondering if that is a particular case where iniBuilds has a partnership with Lufthansa (LIDO) or if I missed something with Navigraph.

https://flightsim.to/addon/109930/lido-charts-for-pmdg-efbs

16 minutes ago, Vitold69 said:

https://flightsim.to/addon/109930/lido-charts-for-pmdg-efbs

Great, thank you very much!

16 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

I was referring to LIDO

Ah! A case where there might be enough airline traffic there for LIDO to have made a chart pack for DND

27 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

Ah! A case where there might be enough airline traffic there for LIDO to have made a chart pack for DND

It's not a matter of traffic. LIDO is a subscription service that real airlines can buy in packs for the airports they service.

So if DND is part of LIDO it means one of their real world customers flies there.