1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said:

Vectoring is still a work in progress, but it's been the main focal point for a couple of months now. Sometimes it's two steps forward, one step back, but it's constantly being worked on by the main dev in almost every update (the other dev, part time, does all the VFR stuff).

Thanks, I noticed that it’s been a bit up and down recently with the occasional regression, but overall it’s really impressive to see how far BATC has come.

Do you think we’ll ever get 24 hrs historic live traffic with navigraph, like we do for weather? I usually fly real scheduled flights when I have the time, so virtually never have the sim time match real time, but a 24 hrs historic live traffic feature would be incredible and fix that.

3 hours ago, 3catcircus said:

BATC isn't yet great for VFR, but for IFR on a STAR, it's been pretty solid for me - I hadn't even recently needed to tell it I'm ready for descent - was on an approach to LSGG and it gave me descent instructions about 30 seconds before I was going to tell it I was ready to begin the descent. It then gave me vectors with various off-plan speeds and it worked like a champ - intercepted the LOC/GS perfectly.

Same with me, plenty early heads up as to which runway and star the just about the time I'm ready to call out for lower I get a decent clearance to certain flight level...or via STAR alt points. Not a problem here.

1 hour ago, Speedbird193 said:

Thanks, I noticed that it’s been a bit up and down recently with the occasional regression, but overall it’s really impressive to see how far BATC has come.

Do you think we’ll ever get 24 hrs historic live traffic with navigraph, like we do for weather? I usually fly real scheduled flights when I have the time, so virtually never have the sim time match real time, but a 24 hrs historic live traffic feature would be incredible and fix that.

That’s a question for Navigraph, really.

If you want my opinion, I think it would be quite unexpected. At the same time, we wouldn’t have expected live traffic either before so who knows! But that would be a discussion between Navigraph and FR24, we’re not in the equation.

9 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

Agree wholeheartedly, I've actually ditched PSXT/RealTraffic and now using BATC traffic instead.

Is AI traffic animation w/ BATC's traffic still a bit herky jerky? It always has been for me but it's been probably a year since I used it maybe it's improved, but probably doubtful. At some level what I'm hearing here is BATC becomes kind of ambience since often people ignore its descent instruction. For me, that really what it is, ambience.

What are the main benefits of the new traffic w/ BATC requiring the Navigraph Ultimate? Right now I'm still using old FSLTL w/o the subscription.

Edited August 27Aug 27 by Noel

33 minutes ago, Noel said:

Is AI traffic animation w/ BATC's traffic still a bit herky jerky? It always has been for me but it's been probably a year since I used it maybe it's improved, but probably doubtful. At some level what I'm hearing here is BATC becomes kind of ambience since often people ignore its descent instruction. For me, that really what it is, ambience.

What are the main benefits of the new traffic w/ BATC requiring the Navigraph Ultimate? Right now I'm still using old FSLTL w/o the subscription.

I've got a Navigraph Ultimate. Using AIG and FSLTL models with BATC. Smooth as butter.

4 hours ago, Noel said:

Is AI traffic animation w/ BATC's traffic still a bit herky jerky? It always has been for me but it's been probably a year since I used it maybe it's improved, but probably doubtful. At some level what I'm hearing here is BATC becomes kind of ambience since often people ignore its descent instruction. For me, that really what it is, ambience.

What are the main benefits of the new traffic w/ BATC requiring the Navigraph Ultimate? Right now I'm still using old FSLTL w/o the subscription.

I use and prefer FSHud, but I also own BATC and the last time I tried it the injected AI traffic was much smoother than in the past. I did increase the FPS in the BATC options from 36 to 72 which probably helped as well.

10 hours ago, turnandbank said:

I use and prefer FSHud, but I also own BATC and the last time I tried it the injected AI traffic was much smoother than in the past.

Smoother and less CPU impact than with FSHud? I find FSHud a bit too rigid (after using PF3 for several years) and CPU-heavy and I'm looking for options.

22 hours ago, 3catcircus said:

I've got a Navigraph Ultimate. Using AIG and FSLTL models with BATC. Smooth as butter.

Interesting. If you just had FSLTL models do you know if if would still be smooth? I'll try turning their traffic on next time up, but I'm not using Ultimate as I just have the AIRAC cycles sub. Not sure how it would become smooth as butter from its new connection to source data but you're saying it has. The other reason I don't use their traffic is that I do prefer and pay for Premium voices in BATC, and when you use BATC traffic the chatter between traffic and controllers uses up those Premium voices big time, compared to just communication with me only which is what happens when I use FSLTL's traffic injection, which also of course delivers butter smooth animation, but at a cost since it is not aware of my presence. One of things I do to add consequences to my flying is use a flight scoring app, but also I do have crash damage enabled so I have to pay attention to collision risk and manage accordingly.

3 hours ago, Noel said:

Interesting. If you just had FSLTL models do you know if if would still be smooth? I'll try turning their traffic on next time up, but I'm not using Ultimate as I just have the AIRAC cycles sub. Not sure how it would become smooth as butter from its new connection to source data but you're saying it has. The other reason I don't use their traffic is that I do prefer and pay for Premium voices in BATC, and when you use BATC traffic the chatter between traffic and controllers uses up those Premium voices big time, compared to just communication with me only which is what happens when I use FSLTL's traffic injection, which also of course delivers butter smooth animation, but at a cost since it is not aware of my presence. One of things I do to add consequences to my flying is use a flight scoring app, but also I do have crash damage enabled so I have to pay attention to collision risk and manage accordingly.

My experience has been that both FSLTL and AIG are smooth using BATC's injection. I've not tried FSLTL's injector. But, I'm using Gigabit Ethernet (702 Mbps download speeds while the kids are also typically streaming Netflix or Hulu on two devices at the same time) and I generally wait more than a few minutes before looking at any traffic since I always start cold and dark and am focused inside on bringing on power, aligning nav, etc.

Ignoring descent instructions seems to be defeating the whole object of using ATC.

2 hours ago, The_Flying_Potato said:

Ignoring descent instructions seems to be defeating the whole object of using ATC.

And that...is why I consider BATC ambience mainly.

9 hours ago, 3catcircus said:

My experience has been that both FSLTL and AIG are smooth using BATC's injection. I've not tried FSLTL's injector. But, I'm using Gigabit Ethernet (702 Mbps download speeds while the kids are also typically streaming Netflix or Hulu on two devices at the same time) and I generally wait more than a few minutes before looking at any traffic since I always start cold and dark and am focused inside on bringing on power, aligning nav, etc.

Some folks don't notice this. Our friend from Norway, Cpt Piett, said he never noticed this until I showed him a video, at which point he noticed this low quality animation in his own use of BATC. I'm just starting a fly from LIPZ>EBBR w/ BATC traffic and will see shortly if this persists. I've got high bandwidth internet as well.

Shortly: at LIPZ, just one plane taxiing to parking, and one plane landing on 4R, and both were very smooth, so hopeful. I say that because there were times in the past when animation was smooth, but more often than not, herky jerky. We'll see on the arrival side how things are. Of note, using FSLTL much more traffic parked, taxiing and flying in and out. I have BATC parking at 10, other sliders at 5. Hopeful though ;o)

Well, not so much. At arrival, back to jerky animation of a plane landing, then taxiing. It's not bad as long as you don't look too closely 😉

Edited Friday at 02:54 PM5 days by Noel

9 minutes ago, Noel said:

And that...is why I consider BATC ambience mainly.

I cancelled my Say Intentions contract a few days ago - it's really easy to do - and then reactivated it the next day - which is also really easy to do.

On 8/26/2026 at 6:37 PM, Speedbird193 said:

Thanks, I noticed that it’s been a bit up and down recently with the occasional regression, but overall it’s really impressive to see how far BATC has come.

Do you think we’ll ever get 24 hrs historic live traffic with navigraph, like we do for weather? I usually fly real scheduled flights when I have the time, so virtually never have the sim time match real time, but a 24 hrs historic live traffic feature would be incredible and fix that.

I wish - but Navigraph has only bought live traffic from FR24, so you should rather ask Navigraph, because BATC just uses the Navigraph API :)

4 hours ago, The_Flying_Potato said:

Ignoring descent instructions seems to be defeating the whole object of using ATC.

I haven't had to do that for half a year at least. Before that, yes descents were sometimes bad.