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BATC: how do you grapple with descent when...
You're right. That could have an effect. I fly with a CI between 24 and 36. Depends on the airline I fly ...and also on my mood. 🙂 The low cost world isn't mine... Yesterday I had a pretty good descent (with STAR), also a quite in time initial instruction (LICR). I don't mind if BATC isn't 'by the book' all the time. In the real world, controllers tend to not care about your spoilers 😉 and respect their airspace-traffic first. That's ok. But with BATC it is kind of intentional / programmed and all the way. Today I had a flight into EDDM (without STAR). I tried again, for testing reasons, to do exactly what ATC tells me. Was too high all the way down. I even 'spoilered' all the last third of my descent to get ready for approach. But then, BATC actually kept me on 6000 until after the turn to final on 26R (which was very short to GUDEG). Had to intercept the 26R ILS too high and deep dive under the slope. EDIT: and yes I do call for descent where it fits me. But all I get from BATC is a runway and no descent instructions. That happens also often, even when BATC already told me to call, when ready for descent. When I then call ready, I only get the runway but no descent. That was also 'fixed' with 1.8.14 and came back with 1.8.18 (and later).
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BATC: how do you grapple with descent when...
Even when flying in ICAO land most of the time, I like to leave the STAR 'open' and get vectored into the approach from time to time (about half of my flights). So these bugs appear very clearly to me. Using STARs, yes I agree (I said that all the time), this works much better. At least most of the times. Still, also with STARs, I would say the initial descent instruction is too late for the 737 (with the latest BATC EA version again).
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BATC: how do you grapple with descent when...
I actually can't remember. Can you show me that? For sure I didn't "jump on you".
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BATC: how do you grapple with descent when...
You fly 320s, don't you. Try a vectored descent / approach (no STAR) with a PMDG 737. Or another 'more slippery' plane. You'll see what people complain about... I was so glad when 1.8.14 came out. The descent instructions came earlier. The controller was more flexible, had more of a 'situational awareness'. And for the first time ATC monitored your descent not only at the next waypoint but through the whole route/process of descent and gave you the next, lower alt at any point. And you didn't have the constant feeling of, how should I get my plane lose alt and speed in time. You didn't have to use full spoilers for nearly the whole descent. Even descents direct to a rwy heading (when you already came in around the same hdg the landing runway is) worked kind of. And then came 1.8.18. And all is back to bad. ATC asking you, if you're ready for descent, you say yes, and then... nothing, no descent instructions. Initial descent is way too late. Most if the descent phase is 4000, 6000 feet or even more above. RIght now, I get speed instructions to slow down to 250 right after initial descent on every descent (a new one, so it is actually getting worse). And no time and space to get settled with your aircraft before final approach. If you actually would follow BATCs instructions you would have to fly one or two racetracks before final to get your plane to the correct alt and speed. If there's some development in that matter and it get's reverted back to the old... (yes I know, 'word not alowed' 🙂), you get frustrated. Why not keep the good move and work forward from that on... (and don't tell me some developer babbel-buzzwords. I'm in that business myself for living) You said earlier, sometimes it is two steps forward, and one step back. Well, I understand that. That's how developing works sometimes. But regarding the non-STAR-approaches (vectoring), it is actually one step forward and one step back. In another words, BATC is standing still for years now (at least in this regard).
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BATC: how do you grapple with descent when...
They had a version, the one before the latest big patch to 1.8.18 (I think it was 1.8.14), where the descent path and the managment by the controler was much much better than before. Right now, with the latest version, they're back to the old word not allowed again. I'm frustrated. I also stopped communicating with them on their discord. Really toxic there.
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Watsi started following Aerosoft a340-600 Pro v1.0.3 Released 9 June 2026 , BATC: how do you grapple with descent when... , GSX Updates and 3 others
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GSX Updates
Man, with all the features and updates, GSX got so complex, that someone new with it is totally screwed in finding out what went wrong (if something's wrong). I use it for a long time now and even made many profiles for airports at fs.to. But I'm no longer motivated to do so. If you use all the features available, when creating a profile, you need 1h just for one position only.
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Profile Manager Released!
Thanks, I thought it's also about controller settings, since it says it in the describtion.
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Profile Manager Released!
I would also be interested, if you can port MSFS2020 controller settings to MSFS2024 controller settings.
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I really like BeyondATC BUT....
He's a troll. Let him do his thing, Adamski. Ignore him until he's gone. Some people don't discuss. They're doing monologues and don't listen. Not worth it.
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FS2024 - How to Eliminate "Melted Buildings"?
As far as I see it (speculation!), your hardware doesn't affect the quality of PG that much (if you don't use a rig from 1998 😊 ). Maybe the amount of VRAM from your GPU is a bit of a factor (16GB VRAM is better than 8). But that's it. Also, it's not about your connection. 50Mbit, 100Mbit or more, it doesn't matter. I think it is indeed (still) the response time / bandwith of data, spit out by the MS/Azure server(s) you're connected to. I think, that is the regression you see. So you can do whatever you want on your side, you can't do nothing to make PG look better, until MS is willing to give PG/TIN a bit more priority on their servers. EDIT: and of course there also could be some issues on the way from the Azure server to your PC. There can be many kinds of bottlenecks in between. But this is also nothing you can change (except for using a VPN to check any differences).
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I really like BeyondATC BUT....
I always was a critic of BATC, especially regarding the TOD and the following descent path, especially when not using a STAR (getting vectored). But my own experience is actually - since one of the last 2 or 3 updates - that it got much better. They did make some backoffice changes in the descend calculation and how the pilot is handled (when no alt restrictions are on the way down), that are helping the pilot to have a bit more 'freedom' to manage their descend accordingly. Approaching with a STAR (especially when the STAR has any kind of alt restriction), BATC works best - but it always did. But I like getting vectored, even if there are STARs available. It's a bit more 'dynamic'. So I leave out any STAR nearly half of my approaches. Even at big airports. And I think BATC got better recently. Not perfect - but clearly better than before. What BATC still hardly can accomplish: vectoring to a runway, you already flew direct in when nearing the airport. Example: fly from EDDF to EGLL, with the 27 rwys in use at EGLL - and don't use any STAR in the SB flightplan. You'll come from the east and fly directly into the rwy heading at around 270°. Should be easy for BATC just to vector you straight in/down, one may think. But it seems not, at least not with the alts. (btw: I don't know how BATC is performing in the US, since I hardly fly there and some procedures are different in FAA land)
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Why do scenery devs model pizza boxes, malls, bedrooms...?
Be cautious: Men in Black, for sure.
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Beyond ATC (BATC) Live Traffic Released
Well, I use FSLTL for the liveries/planes and when there is a specific plane/airline not available I see a white plane.
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Aerosoft a340-600 Pro v1.0.3 Released 9 June 2026
Am I stupid or are there many items, I already had in the 1.0.2 update?? 1.0.3: https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/185577-a340-600-pro-update-103-out-now/ 1.0.2: https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/185438-aerosoft-a340-600-professional-update-v102-released/
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Beyond ATC (BATC) Live Traffic Released
I don't know if the stored database of scheduled traffic is from FR24. But from whoever it is, these databases do cost (the developer) big money. That's not a $150 thing. So buying a new set every year is no option for BATC. That's why it is a bit older (not older than 2 or 3 years, I guess). So if you fly the sim out of real time, deactivate the live traffic and use the scheduled traffic database. Then you have the correct traffic for your time, set in the sim. (btw @turnandbank: you do sound more and more like a FSHUD spokesperson. 😉)