Watsi

That's a good idea. Upvoted.

Hey Alex, just a short heads up (you may know it already). Navigraph introduced a new folder named "navigraph-navdata-fixedwing" with the latest AIRAC. This results in LNM marking all airports as addon airports, when loading the scenery library. Quickfix: exclude this folder as addon recognition in the according options for LNM. But I guess you did that by default before ('in the backoffice'). Best wishes Watsi

The advantage in the OP video is the permanently installed hardware on the real 757. So I also think, the big 'blackbox' in this discussion here are three things: Which controller does one use: yoke or joystick. And from which manufacturer. Every product has kind of a 'base sensitivity' by default coming from the way this hardware was developed and built. If you would use three different controllers with a Cessna 172 in the sim (and don't change anything else - settings wise), you would have three different 'feelings' with the plane. Which sensitivity settings are set for your controller in your sim: some leave all default, some adjust them, make some deadzones and some sensitivity changes. Do they match all planes you fly? Is everybody doing the correct/full weight and balance configuration pre-flight (CG, trim, derated takeoff, CI, etc.)? If you would like to test the realism of this flight model you would need kind of a testlab, with different hardwares and clearly defined in-sim settings (regarding sensitivity, weight and balance, but also weather, etc). Then compare each hardware and see if they get different results. Then play with the in-sim settings (sensitivity) and see, if different hardware needs different settings to get the same, correct result at the end. So we do talk about correct flight modeling, but with everybody, sitting at his desk at home and using a totally different 'environment'. Even the self-claimed real pilots here (which doesn't mean I mistrust them). I would like to have a testlab with 20 different controllers and do this science-project. 😄 Unfortunately, I don't own 20 different controllers. Just one. But it would be interesting for sure.

A few weeks ago, they shut down my most famous FFM VORDME (114.20). Which had its place in my NAV radio for the last 25 years, when I flew to EDDF. A sad moment in history. 😭

I also think, BATC feels more 'scripted' than SI. That's one thing I also miss with BATC - more of a dynamic controlling. Shortcuts (planned by BATC) is one part of that. Once BATC gets its vectoring and separation done (they are on the way, step by step) and gives you a bit more the feeling of a 'live enviroment' (with more 'outside of the red line' controlling), it could be the better choice of all ATC addons (regarding the price alone).

It often also is... let's say the iPhone generation versus the boomer generation. 😄 Well, let's not focus on boomers only (one of which I am). It's just a matter of how many years of your life, you experienced all these things in the world. At a certain age (some sooner, some later), you understand - that you won't die, if you do not use the latest "stuff" (<wanted to use another word for this) all the time - that 'newer' doesn't necessarily mean 'better' all the time (not for everybody) - that many things, you had the fear to miss all your life, are just senseless compared to other things - that there will be a serenity in life, you develop over the years (if all goes well), which lifts your overal QoL sooo much - that people never decide anything in their life in a rational way - and the best proof for this previous statement is, how often people get very emotional, defending their decisions [smartass-mode OFF] 😉

Well, I can say, my system is more than 2024 capable. It's not the hardware or the presumed (lack of) performance for me. There are other reasons.

I actually do the same. No default airports. When you fly airliners, it reduces the amount of needed airports - and I got all (addons) I need (especially in Europe) with 2020. And yes, when you fly high, trees aren't that important, except for the 5min you fly low on TO and APPR. And I don't focus on trees then. This doesn't mean I don't want a decent scenery/graphics around me. It means more like: the benefits of 2024 vs. 2020 aren't that much with this kind of flying. So the benefits, staying with 2020, got more weight in the decision. Guys, this is no competition. Everybody did choose the sim he/she wanted. All is good. 🙂

I do get, that people want a first/third person view to walk out and around the plane. Not one of my first wishes with the sim, but alright. I get it. But as far as I've seen it: isn't the 'walk around mode' by itself pretty stuttery and notchy?

I'm actually not sure, if the "plague" we had with 2020 (mainly in the early months), has something to do with the simconnect issue. As the airports / scenery don't use simconnect (normally). So why should they disappear. They're already 'in sim'. Even at the time, this topic was discussed more frequently, I already wasn't sure if this is just one thing only or several issues with different causes and different outcomes that got mixed together (even by Asobo). Yes, the simconnect limit (and I'm also not sure, but believe it is still there, since nothing was changed with simconnect regarding 2020 vs. 2024) could be a problem. But I actually have the suspicion, that there's more - burried deep in the core of the sim. And no one had a look on it for many years.

Or: they could have gone out of EA but still update their product. Cause people would say: "See, they are out for a year now - and they still bring new updates to make BATC better." Which would look even better for them. 😉 (I guess that's kind of the 'Umberto-Style' - but he may has gone to far, regarding complexity with his product) But seriously: now, since the arrivals (vectoring etc.) are slowly getting better, I would say for the first time - at this stage, BATC could go on 'full release mode' soon. All future additions (VFR, shortcuts, more traffic awareness, more dynamic controlling with inflight changes, etc.) could be seen as the cream on the cake. And people will see the dedication behind the product. At the end, it's really just about naming...

Yes, I think you hit the point.

When BATC says "MSFS2024 only", I wonder why they don't do it for 2020 too? (as it seems to be possible)

Will be interesting next year to see if MS is announcing a FS2028. I'm not sure, since I can't see any groundbreaking new fidelity stuff, that would justify a new sim-number. On the other hand, 2024 wasn't that groundbreaking too. (ooohhh, I hear some people screaming behind their screens now 🙂) Of course 2024 was a complete rework, but mainly behind the scenes / in the back-office. But at the front desk? If you fly high, airliners on 35.000 feet (which is what I do), 2024 isn't much of a revelation - compared to 2020. Even the ground textures of 2020 where better than 2024 for some time (until MS decided to use 2024 textures for 2020 too). I understand people switching to 2024. Especially VFR flyers, low and slow. I think this is the area, where 2024 gets its points. But regarding airliner flying? Most of the planes (as someone said already) don't benefit from the more sophisticated flight modeling in 2024, default and 3rd party. Live weather - reliability and depiction - is as 'good' as 2020. And with 2020, you have - after the first 4 years of fiddeling - a totally stable sim now. I would start thinking about 2024, if something like the weather would be improved significantly. But for now, I stay with 2020, at least for this and the next year. Will there be a 2028? I guess the background rework leading to 2024 gave Asobo/MS much better options to 'upgrade' 2024 with new versions, without having to release a totally new sim again. On the other hand, MS wants to make (even more) money... So we'll see.

I don't like Gaya airports cause they do this object collision thingy with their buildings. So you can't do anything eye-candy regarding GSX profiles (passenger walkways etc.), cause people will float.