phil747fan

VREF for the LR is affected by pressure altitude. at 240t the vref30 is 143 knots at sea level at 4000` it will be 144 knots. taken from QRH ...

Gimli glider is the perfect example of it ... luckily it ended well ...

altitude is changing a little VREF but by 1 or 2 knots at max ...

when i posted it was too early ....

not from me but real accurate data. and it is working. the author will certainly release it in time.

let me check if i still have the old atlas made for 747 classic and S america...

one profile has been done and im pretty sure it will be available soon. if someone is beta flying contact me and i can run a flightplan for ... Phil

funny that we want to be more precise than the king ... ie: Cathay used for their fleet of Pax, BCF and F in -400 only one profile with adjustment made for each frame .... of course for those in the engine combo ... the fuel burn will be so little different that you wont notice it ...

touche .... are we that old? lol ... love to hear about maybe the classic ... if you need something or any feedback pretty sure you know how to find me ... all the best. Phil

ERF limitation will be fuel cap ...

back to the origin ... some nightmares to come ...

Merry Christmas from the snowy and cold Whitehorse ... -28c this morning ... Rob: from the past and last century another tip, there is nothing that can`t be fixed by red roses ....

a classic 747 ...

good ... what else than a profile do you need to generate a flightplan with PFX for a specific aircraft Milton?

just read the post i made. there is one made ...

Bertie, my infos came from GE, PW and RR pax or Freighter versions ...

not Bertie but some operators have 25T.

there is more than one user over here that have that data trust me .....

to add there is at least one european freight operator using RR engines that choose that option.

cant wait to hear the beta tests on that one ... ******************************************************************************** F O R I N F O R M A T I O N O N L Y ******************************************************************************** CARGOLUX FLIGHTPLAN - IFR CLXTEST 747-8 ELLX-KJFK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL WEIGHTS IN KILOGRAMS (KG) STD 31JUL/0320Z -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OFP 1 - PREPARED 31JUL/0255Z BY PHILIPPE PRAPROTNIK CVTEST/CLXTEST 747-8/B747-8F GENX-2B67 ROUTE: ELLXKJFK-MDT DEP: ELLX/LUX 24 ELEV 1234 FT MACH: M.85 TTL G/C DIST: 3272 NM ARR: KJFK/JFK 22R ELEV 13 FT INIT ALT: FL180 TTL F/P DIST: 3347 NM FUEL BIAS: 0.0 % TTL AIR DIST: 3835 NM AVG WIND CMP: HD062 KT ALT: KBWI/BWI 33L ELEV 143 FT 182 NM ALT: KEWR/EWR 22R ELEV 17 FT 95 NM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFIG DOW PAX CARGO TOTAL ULOAD LIM ZFW TOW LDW STANDARD 182344 145298 0 LDW MAX 328855 442253 345184 PLN 327642 439370 345184 ACT ...... ...... ...... FUEL CORR ENDUR TRIP 94186 ........ 07:53 CONT 5% 4709 ........ 00:23 ALTN KBWI 6814 ........ 00:35 FINAL RESV 6019 ........ 00:30 MIN T/O 111728 ........ 09:22 ..................................... EXTRA ...... ........ ..... CAPTAINS SIGNATURE (....) TAXI 500 ........ 00:10 RELEASE ...... ........ ..... I ACCEPT THIS OFP AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE PLANNED ROUTE AND AERODROMES FUEL TANK CAP 194306 KG / MAX EXTRA FUEL 0 KG LIM BY LDW TRIP CORR FOR 10000 KG TOW INCR: N/A KG / 10000 KG TOW DECR: -2166 KG 2000 FT LOWER: -173 KG / EET 07:46 CLB: 250/340/85 DES: 85/340/250 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELLX STD 03:20Z/05:20L ETD 03:20Z ACT OFBL .... EST T/O 03:30Z ACT T/O .... KJFK STA 10:50Z/06:50L ETA 11:28Z ACT ONBL .... EST LDG 11:23Z ACT LDG .... SKD 07:30 PLN 08:08 TTL BLCK .... EST FLT 07:53 TTL FLT .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATC ROUTE: N0431F180 DIK2X DIK M624 REMBA/N0505F300 UM624 BUB UL608 DENUT UL610 GILDA UM14 STOAT UL613 MOGLI UP6 LESTA UN601 BOLBI UL26 PENIL UL70 BAGSO/N0499F320 DCT DOGAL/M085F320 DCT 54N020W 53N030W 52N040W/M085F340 50N050W DCT ELSIR/N0503F340 N316A TUSKY DCT PLYMM PARCH1 ALTERNATE PLANNING -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALTN/RWY DIST ALT/FL MSA COMP TIME FUEL DIFF ROUTE KBWI/33L 182 16000 047 TL005 00:35 6814 - GREKI4 JFK DCT MXE V378 NUGGY TRISH2 KEWR/22R 95 12000 031 HD004 00:23 4530 -2284 CRI DCT COL V232 SBJ MOST CRITICAL MORA 4800 FT AT GIGTO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AWY WAYPOINT MT ALT MSA FREQ TAS LEG FUEL REM / USED LEG ACC -FIR NAME ISA WND/SPD GS REM POSITION ETO / ATO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELLX/24 1234 038 111.7 / 1.6 LUXEMBOURG 3347 N4938.1 E00614.1 ...../..... DIK2X D238H 237 *CLB 038 7 110.8 / 2.6 02 00.04 LUX238008 P04 235/023 3339 N4934.1 E00604.4 ...../..... DIK2X DIK 006 *CLB 038 114.40 18 109.3 / 4.1 03 00.07 DIEKIRCH P06 237/043 3322 N4951.6 E00607.7 ...../..... M624 DEMUL 315 *CLB 038 8 108.6 / 4.7 01 00.08 P06 237/048 3313 N4957.7 E00558.7 ...../..... M624 RITAX 315 *CLB 036 10 108.0 / 5.3 02 00.10 P06 238/053 3304 N5004.6 E00548.4 ...../..... *TOC 315 FL180 036 431 9 106.4 / 5.8 01 00.11 P06 239/058 414 3295 N5010.9 E00539.0 ...../..... M624 REMBA 315 *CLB 036 40 105.1 / 7.1 06 00.17 P06 237/053 3255 N5039.7 E00454.8 ...../..... UM624 BUB 315 *CLB 028 114.60 20 104.1 / 8.2 03 00.20 -EBUR BRUSSELS P05 238/063 3234 N5054.1 E00432.2 ...../..... UL608 DENUT 301 *CLB 028 39 102.4 / 9.9 05 00.25 P04 241/082 3196 N5114.1 E00339.4 ...../..... UL610 LUMEN 282 *CLB 022 10 102.0 / 10.3 01 00.26 P04 241/087 3186 N5116.1 E00324.4 ...../..... UL610 BULAM 282 FL300 022 505 25 101.1 / 11.1 03 00.29 P04 241/088 434 3161 N5121.1 E00245.0 ...../..... UL610 DIBLI 281 FL300 019 505 19 100.6 / 11.7 03 00.32 P03 240/087 434 3142 N5124.7 E00215.7 ...../..... UL610 RAPIX 281 FL300 019 504 10 100.3 / 12.0 01 00.33 -EGTT P03 240/086 434 3132 N5126.5 E00200.0 ...../..... UL610 TEBRA 281 FL300 024 504 15 99.8 / 12.4 02 00.35 P03 240/084 435 3117 N5129.3 E00136.7 ...../..... UL610 KOPUL 281 FL300 024 504 18 99.3 / 13.0 03 00.38 P02 240/082 436 3099 N5132.5 E00108.2 ...../..... UL610 GILDA 281 FL300 024 503 21 98.6 / 13.6 03 00.41 P01 239/079 437 3078 N5136.1 E00035.0 ...../..... UM14 FERIT 320 FL300 024 502 3 98.6 / 13.7 00 00.41 P01 239/078 482 3076 N5137.9 E00032.3 ...../..... UM14 WESUL 320 FL300 024 502 3 98.5 / 13.7 01 00.42 P01 239/078 481 3073 N5140.2 E00029.1 ...../..... UM14 STOAT 320 FL300 026 502 28 97.7 / 14.5 03 00.45 P02 238/081 481 3044 N5201.5 W00001.2 ...../..... UL613 MOGLI 333 FL300 026 503 19 97.2 / 15.0 02 00.47 P01 239/077 501 3025 N5218.5 W00016.1 ...../..... UP6 LESTA 313 FL300 026 500 39 96.1 / 16.1 05 00.52 M01 240/076 470 2986 N5244.4 W00104.3 ...../..... UN601 ROBIN 330 FL300 026 500 16 95.7 / 16.5 02 00.54 M01 240/076 492 2970 N5257.8 W00117.7 ...../..... UN601 DISAL 330 FL300 036 500 23 95.1 / 17.1 03 00.57 M01 240/075 492 2947 N5317.4 W00137.8 ...../..... UN601 BOLBI 330 FL300 036 500 12 94.8 / 17.4 02 00.59 M01 240/072 491 2935 N5328.0 W00148.7 ...../..... UL26 SONEX 280 FL300 036 499 13 94.4 / 17.8 01 01.00 M01 241/071 440 2922 N5329.8 W00210.3 ...../..... UL26 PENIL 280 FL300 047 499 54 92.9 / 19.4 08 01.08 M02 245/065 440 2868 N5336.9 W00339.8 ...../..... UL70 BABRA 277 FL300 047 499 10 92.6 / 19.6 01 01.09 M02 245/064 440 2858 N5337.6 W00356.7 ...../..... UL70 GIGTO 277 FL300 048 498 5 92.4 / 19.8 01 01.10 M02 246/064 441 2852 N5338.0 W00405.8 ...../..... UL70 UNDUX 277 FL300 048 498 8 92.2 / 20.0 01 01.11 M02 247/063 440 2845 N5338.5 W00418.6 ...../..... UL70 SOPAX 277 FL300 048 498 5 92.1 / 20.2 01 01.12 M02 247/063 440 2840 N5338.8 W00427.1 ...../..... UL70 RAMOX 276 FL300 048 498 14 91.7 / 20.6 01 01.13 M03 248/063 440 2826 N5339.6 W00450.3 ...../..... UL70 OGTUG 276 FL300 048 498 11 91.3 / 20.9 02 01.15 M02 250/062 440 2815 N5340.2 W00508.8 ...../..... UL70 BAGSO 276 FL300 017 498 13 91.0 / 21.2 02 01.17 -EISN M02 251/062 440 2802 N5340.8 W00530.0 ...../..... *CLB 281 FL320 043 499 210 85.0 / 27.2 28 01.45 M02 275/053 445 2592 N5358.0 W01124.4 ...../..... -------------------------------- OCEANIC ENTRY --------------------------------- [ ] LR NAV ACCUR CHECK AT __:__Z CAPT _______ STBY _______ FO _______ [ ] RVSM ALTIMETER CHECK AT __:__Z CAPT _______ STBY _______ FO _______ [ ] COMPASS HDG CHECK AT __:__Z CAPT _______ STBY _______ FO _______ [ ] HF CHECK AT __:__Z SIGNATURE (....) ______________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DCT DOGAL 278 FL320 010 500 127 81.4 / 30.8 17 02.02 -EGGX P03 295/053 452 2465 N5400.0 W01500.0 ...../..... DCT 5420N 280 FL320 010 498 177 76.6 / 35.7 23 02.25 54N020W P00 309/056 449 2288 N5400.0 W02000.0 ...../..... DCT 5330N 274 FL320 010 504 362 67.1 / 45.1 48 03.13 -CZQX 53N030W P07 303/111 422 1926 N5300.0 W03000.0 ...../..... DCT 5240N 278 FL320 010 507 371 56.4 / 55.8 53 04.06 52N040W P10 256/086 421 1556 N5200.0 W04000.0 ...../..... *CLB 273 FL340 010 508 210 50.6 / 61.7 30 04.36 P11 242/096 413 1346 N5102.7 W04524.5 ...../..... DCT 5050N 271 FL340 010 504 187 45.1 / 67.1 28 05.04 50N050W P10 241/116 390 1159 N5000.0 W05000.0 ...../..... DCT ELSIR 269 FL340 010 503 83 42.7 / 69.5 13 05.17 P10 241/116 388 1076 N4930.0 W05200.0 ...../..... DCT *BDRY 265 FL340 035 501 345 33.7 / 78.5 49 06.06 -CZQM P08 243/080 422 731 N4652.7 W05939.4 ...../..... N316A TUSKY 259 FL340 032 499 369 24.1 / 88.1 53 06.59 -KZBW P05 243/038 459 362 N4333.9 W06700.0 ...../..... DCT PLYMM 257 FL340 021 498 177 20.1 / 92.1 22 07.21 P05 241/020 477 186 N4202.6 W07025.6 ...../..... PARCH1 PVD 262 FL340 027 115.60 497 49 19.1 / 93.2 06 07.27 PROVIDENCE P04 247/016 480 137 N4143.4 W07125.7 ...../..... *TOD 234 FL340 027 497 16 18.7 / 93.5 02 07.29 P04 247/016 482 121 N4131.0 W07139.5 ...../..... PARCH1 TRAIT 234 *DES 027 18 18.7 / 93.6 02 07.31 P06 313/005 102 N4117.0 W07155.0 ...../..... PARCH1 PARCH 234 *DES 042 14 18.6 / 93.6 02 07.33 P09 314/006 88 N4105.9 W07207.2 ...../..... PARCH1 CCC 266 *DES 042 117.20 32 18.5 / 93.8 05 07.38 CALVERTON P10 341/006 56 N4055.7 W07247.9 ...../..... PARCH1 ROBER 230 *DES 031 18 18.4 / 93.9 03 07.41 P10 006/009 37 N4041.1 W07301.9 ...../..... PARCH1 CRAIL 284 *DES 031 14 18.3 / 94.0 02 07.43 -KZNY P08 010/010 23 N4041.2 W07320.6 ...../..... PARCH1 CAPIT 302 *DES 031 14 18.1 / 94.1 03 07.46 P07 008/007 10 N4045.6 W07337.8 ...../..... PARCH1 KJFK/22R 235 13 031 10 17.5 / 94.7 07 07.53 KENNEDY INTL N4038.5 W07346.1 ...../..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WIND INFORMATION - OBS 30/JUL 18:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (CLIMB) BULAM STOAT BOLBI FL280 244/081 -34 FL340 243/102 -49 FL340 240/104 -50 FL340 240/068 -47 FL230 239/069 -23 FL320 242/095 -45 FL320 239/093 -46 FL320 240/070 -46 FL170 239/057 -13 FL300 241/088 -41 FL300 238/081 -42 FL300 240/073 -46 FL110 237/042 -1 FL280 241/080 -37 FL280 239/074 -38 FL280 241/068 -42 FL050 235/023 +9 FL260 242/071 -33 FL260 241/066 -34 FL260 242/062 -38 RAMOX DOGAL 5420N 5330N FL340 246/055 -45 FL360 297/038 -44 FL360 314/047 -49 FL360 303/128 -49 FL320 247/059 -46 FL340 298/047 -45 FL340 311/054 -50 FL340 302/128 -45 FL300 249/063 -47 FL320 295/053 -46 FL320 310/056 -48 FL320 303/111 -41 FL280 249/059 -43 FL300 293/061 -46 FL300 308/058 -45 FL300 305/093 -37 FL260 248/054 -39 FL280 294/057 -43 FL280 308/055 -41 FL280 305/077 -34 5240N 5050N TUSKY (DESCENT) FL360 259/097 -49 FL380 242/100 -47 FL380 238/066 -51 FL320 325/010 -44 FL340 257/093 -43 FL360 242/108 -45 FL360 239/052 -49 FL260 007/016 -30 FL320 256/087 -38 FL340 241/116 -42 FL340 243/038 -47 FL190 006/011 -12 FL300 255/079 -33 FL320 240/114 -38 FL320 255/023 -43 13000 008/011 -1 FL280 253/077 -29 FL300 239/112 -33 FL300 300/012 -40 6000 012/012 +10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END FLIGHTPLAN 00490 CLXTEST 747-8 ELLX-KJFK 31JUL2017

can you afford or will you hire her that is a good question ....

i voted no. i want first and above a new designed b767 with pmdg look like and for fs9 ... it will not happen like a new md11 ... it didnt work, the people did not buy it, why they will do it this time ... easier to dream on a new classic 747 ...

was wondering if PMDG in all innocence is not trying to influence a market decision ...

John, thanks for the head. never asked the maintenance when they did an overhaul of the classic fleet, no ops bulletins associated with it, so i imagine with the years more and more issues or the wore out ... i ve seen -341 and -269b with still the sticker operation in flight authorized ...

what bring Boeing to re-design from the classic where the APU can be started in the air then the -400 no more?