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Of course there's massive difference, a sim like this with 10m+ users & countless staff compared to say Automobilista 2 with not even 400k and a handful of staff is uncomparable. But at the end of the day both are still giving away free content & updates which is the premise of this particular conversation, the point being as I raised that this is nothing new.

I've paid practically peanuts for some of the car racing Sims (and ETS2/ATS2) and raced them for years, overall thousands of hours of enjoyment and they still give me free stuff!

Free content & updates is nothing new, game developers with far far less players than MSFS have been doing this for over a decade!

Again no one I can see is asking for "flawless", it really is quite simple to understand; They can do better. 🙂

The evidence of poor QC from launch is there for all to see, countless updates with issues, regressions etc. I totally agree nothing is perfect, but this title could be soooo much better if they paid more attention to what they are doing with each update and had a better QC approach.

I haven't seen anyone trash "the entire thing", we're merely pointing out the blatant obvious when it comes to a major issue within what is overall a decent update.

Nothing "cool" about it whatsoever, they tried a new method it's clearly not working correctly and they should've delayed release until they fixed it properly, not yet again releasing something that is half broken. It's everything about QC and as above poor management decisions, again. Hooray it's free, that doesn't mean criticism should be swept under the carpet like their QC procedures. We all want the best from this product, so we should speak up when things are not right in the slight hope they ever listen, even when it's free.

The latter; God awful Quality Control - has been since day dot. Not listening to Testers reports (when they have Users help Beta Test that is), no idea if they even have an internal test team. Deadlines & specific dates to meet in order to release Updates, they could've delayed this WU quite easily knowing full well there's a major issue but.....nah the suits want it out the door pronto and it's "free" so we get what we got.....again.

Imagine a world without Working Title, doesn't bare thinking about does it!?

Any update on possible news Henrik?

Ah ok the standard rabbit in the headlights response then, yeah seen this with them before unfortunately. But seeing as Seb had already addressed this I would hope he does understand, guess we'll see.

It was posted on the official forums at the time but they're going through problems at the minute, here's the link if it works for you; Link

https://www.helisimmer.com/interview/msfs-2024-helicopters-future-msfs-2020

Which is a different subject...

Is this relationship purely AI Aircraft based? Or is there also progress with Henrik's Live Shipping mod and Asobo perhaps? 👀

Seb specifically said he'll be looking into this during the previous Q&A, I missed what he said about it last night what did he say? Edit: November 2023 Q&A; But I would say, yes, I think the clouds in real weather don’t go in terms of density as far as what you can get in the presets, where you can really push it to extremely dense. So that’s something we’re going to look into if we are correctly using the live weather data in terms of cloud density, if we can push it a little bit further, and maybe also on the meta side. So that’s something definitely we’re going to look into.

Have you restarted the Sim after installing? I've seen reports that this fixes missing stuff.

It was confirmed in June last year 😉

Thanks for the summary @lwt1971 much appreciated 🙂 I watched most of it and I was less than stunned to see another fob off for VR users "something big" martial said.....they said that years ago and nothing happened....I live in eternal hope but have come to accept the old bugs that *THEY* introduced won't ever get fixed 😡 just hope things are better in MSFS2024 all round, it's been a rough ride with this sim. Other than than great news from WT for the G3X and glass cockpits performance improvements (at least that'll help VR as well I should think as Seb alluded too), good to hear the Water Masks might get a fix in the coming days.

5 attempts gotta be a record 😄

Yep mine isn't an overheating related issue either, my temps are rock solid safe.

Using VR I'm very susceptible to FPS changes, what you describe has always been in the Sim even before we got VR and I was using flat screen. I could be flying over the Ocean, hundreds of miles from land in clear blue skies and the FPS will randomly go lower then come back up again. Is it related to servers? Quite possibly going on the above example, but I've come to accept it's "one of those things" and hopefully MSFS2024 improves this area as there's nothing a user can do to improve this IMO.

Only if you're watching the twitch live you can ask questions in the chat, I fully expect they'll be inundated with this though so they can't really ignore it.

The Q&A tonight will be telling, hopefully they own up (again) to another mess they've created.

The Quality Control department earning their stripes again 🤣 can only laugh now, I'm beyond trying to understand how the hell their internal testing procedures are supposed to work...