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Dreamfleet 727 - does it work with FS9.1 patch?

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HiHeard some people had problems installing the Dreamfleet / Flight1 Boeing 727 in FS2004 with the FS9.1 patch?Was going to buy but wanted to check first!Has anyone got this aircraft installed and running ok in FS9.1 on Windows XP?ThanksDenhamPPL

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No problems here, been running it since shortly after its release and in 9.1. With Dreamfleet's reputation for little to no bug releases its actually funny you would ask about one of theirs. I would expect more difficulties from a number of other developers.

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Well I suppose me saying it works doesn't count for much, but I was under the impression the 727 was released after the 9.1 patch i.e everyone has always been using the 727 in FS9.1.I'm also not sure where you may have heard about a problem, a search of both this forum and the Dreamfleet 727 forum didn't turn up anything.......but regardless, I'm happy to see the 727 being discussed ;-)Greatest Airliners - DC-8Greatest Airliners - 727 Whisperjethttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg

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Where are you guys with FSX? Man it's lonely out there on the FSX decent 727 front at the moment!Gary

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>Where are you guys with FSX? Man it's lonely out there on>the FSX decent 727 front at the moment!>>GaryIt's lonely on FSX Gary, because not many have bitten the bullit.Apart from the MAAMsim DC3, how many of your listed add-ons you proudly advertise in your signature, work in FSX? LOL

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The reason many haven't bitten the bullit is because it takes a while to chew. The more complex the add-on and the more that was done outside the SDK, the longer it takes to do it all again for FSX............but when developers start to release the true FSX versions :-jumpyFor what it's worth, I haven't started FS9 for months now and with FEX released, I'm more than happy using my 727, DC-8 and A400M in FSX.Suppose these things will need to be shared at some point ;-)Greatest Airliners - DC-8Greatest Airliners - 727 Whisperjethttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg

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but when developers start to>release the true FSX versions :-jumpy.........We'll all be looking at FS-11 ;-)

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I've more than happy with FS9 for so long I have seen little reason to change at least until my favorite products made the migration or something so stellar came out that I just "had" to switch. An awesome DC-8 would do that I think. I hate thinking about configuring FSX with all my stuff. Ugh.Eric

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Hi altstiff,Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I noticed your computer specs in your signature. With the setup you have, how do the gauges in the Dreamfleet 727's virtual cockpit perform? I'll be updating my computer around the end of the year, and I'm interested to hear what you, or anyone with a comparable system, have experienced in this regard? Thanks!Mike A.

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I use the steam gauges mainly. I think the DF727 is limited in V/C gauge refresh rate anyway, no matter what the system, not like some other stuff (like PMDG).They could be better, but they are no different than they were on my old P4 3.4 system.Feel free to PM me if you have any questions reguarding my system. I used to have a P4 3.4GHZ @ 800fsb and 256mb 7800GT video card.

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Another very happy customer on 9.1 here....Paul, yea, the B727 hasn't been discussed all that much, in fact it seems to me that it was one of the most overlooked releases in general! It must be one of the best bug-free releases ever and one of the loveliest add-ons for FS9. Contrary to attempts of certain others. I still ache over a certain half baked four engine jet, a close relative of your 727. :)Maybe you should build in a few bugs in the DC-8, so people talk about it and then issue a patch. Or two. Or three. ;)Oh and while I'm here... I, too, am sticking to FS9.1. Installed FSX, plunged right into it and after two months of constant tweaking, I lost my disks in a RAID 0 accident. Never bothered to reinstall the sucker. Regards,Jure

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IMHO vintage aircrafts are always overlooked, except when they have lots of bugs. Another example that comes to mind is the Coolsky MD80: very frame rate friendly, very good ONS and PMC simulation but...i

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"Maybe you should build in a few bugs in the DC-8, so people talk about it and then issue a patch. Or two. Or three. ;)"How truer this could be than this! That sometimes amazes me: an aircraft or addon is released with bugs, developpers take actions to correct the bugs (not always entirely), and you read high praise about customer services and sound developpers.On the other side, some release bug-free (near) products, and you never heard of them because there is nothing to complain about.This begs the question: which is better to get audience and word of mouth for an FS addon in the forums: developpers correcting bugs, or developpers able to release bug free products from the first place?If measuring audience and praise in the forums for products is an indication, and from my limited experience in various boards (only surfing for the last 6 years and seen many many addon releases), I'd bet the products with more "good devs/good product" feedback are the ones with bugs (provided they are solved after release).Makes a developper wonder to introduce bugs willingly in a product with the corrections readily available for later.

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>The reason many haven't bitten the bullit is because it takes>a while to chew. The more complex the add-on and the more>that was done outside the SDK, the longer it takes to do it>>Suppose these things will need to be shared at some point ;-)>>Greatest Airliners - DC-8>Greatest Airliners - 727 Whisperjet>Hi Paul a few questions,Actually the 727 isn't that difficult to fly lol that is in FS ;-)Is this one already compatible with FSX and has it native files?Like specular / bump / fresnal maps and DDS files?Is the VC more 3D now?From the pictures on the website the VC looks a bit flat less 3d to save polygons which in FSX is a bit different :-)... For example the overhead? or do you have better examples to show?The brush is heating up when seeing this beauty I overlooked this one completely lol With my favorite weather radar already included :-)Thank you upfront for taking the time and considering to answer my questions. Cheers,http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/awf1/sign1.jpg

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Hi Andre,The current 727 is FS9 only and all the pic's you've seen of the 727 are the current version 2 model.............no previews of the new FSX 727 have been released yet.The FSX version is just that, an FSX only release using spec, bump and fresnel and yes the VC will be new too with almost all (I could say all but I'd need to check) switches and knobs now modelled.

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>Hi Andre,>>The current 727 is FS9 only and all the pic's you've seen of>the 727 are the current version 2 model.............no>previews of the new FSX 727 have been released yet.>>The FSX version is just that, an FSX only release using spec,>bump and fresnel and yes the VC will be new too with almost>all (I could say all but I'd need to check) switches and knobs>now modelled.Paul thank you for answering my questions really appreciated and sounds great :-)As for the FSX model will it be the same price scheme as for the FS9 model? or will the FS9 customers have an discounted price?Because in that case I'm off to purchase a 727 :-) Cheers,http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/awf1/sign1.jpg

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I know I am a nobody around here but I still want to voice my opinion on the Dreamfleet 727.It is the most underrated add-on aircraft for FS9. This plane is a winner !

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>I know I am a nobody around here but I still want to voice my>opinion on the Dreamfleet 727.>>It is the most underrated add-on aircraft for FS9. This plane>is a winner !I cannot agree more. I have my hard drive full of payware add ons and the dreamfleet 727 is still one of my favourites.It is a pilot's plane that if properly flow is just a pleasure in all aspects. I am flying it regularly.I do fly it on FS9 1 patched and XP and I have to say this is one of the best "plug and play" add ons ever. No complicated install instructions or complex steps, just install it configure it and fly it.No a single trouble on FS9 and XP on my side.With this add on Dreamfleet can surely use a marketing campaing about "if you are not pleased they reimburse you the money". Lol it will cost them 0 dollars. ;)Surely a winner.

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