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ARMING SPOILER ON 737PMDG

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Hello pilots !!!I do fly PMDG product since 2 months(wow love it ) but please tell me one thing: why everytime i arm my spoiler they never extend on landing ??? the light is green but nothing happen ???on the 747 i do what we do habitually to arm them (MAJ+

Key combination shift # places the spoiler lever in the armed position... set the autobrake to what is required, and the spoiler should deploy on landing...Andrew

Andrew Entwistle

Key combination shift # places the spoiler lever in the armed position... set the autobrake to what is required, and the spoiler should deploy on landing...Andrew
Ok I will try it now and come back with my answer :) thank you Andrew!!

If the green light comes on then I suspect you are thinking they don't work because you are watching the instant replay feature, which doesn't faithfully show control surfaces during replay. Try an outside view during your test, you should see the spoilers if the green light is on.

Dan Downs KCRP

  • 4 weeks later...
If the green light comes on then I suspect you are thinking they don't work because you are watching the instant replay feature, which doesn't faithfully show control surfaces during replay. Try an outside view during your test, you should see the spoilers if the green light is on.
I could be wrong but I have found (usually by the fact that I have a bouncy landing) that even although the "speedbrake armed" light is on, the spoilers do not always deploy at landing. I have found that if you drag the spoiler handle "downwards" with the mouse until just before it starts moving out of the armed zone, they seem to consitently deploy on landing. I have also noticed they stick up a tiny bit if you look in the wing view mode.I am fairly sure I am not imagining it!CheersRudy
I could be wrong but I have found (usually by the fact that I have a bouncy landing) that even although the "speedbrake armed" light is on, the spoilers do not always deploy at landing. I have found that if you drag the spoiler handle "downwards" with the mouse until just before it starts moving out of the armed zone, they seem to consitently deploy on landing. I have also noticed they stick up a tiny bit if you look in the wing view mode.I am fairly sure I am not imagining it!CheersRudy
Gosh sorry, I forgot it was way down on the second page of the forum!
  • 11 months later...
Key combination shift # places the spoiler lever in the armed position... set the autobrake to what is required, and the spoiler should deploy on landing...Andrew
Is this the correct key combo for spoilers arm?

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

I have my spoilers mapped to one of the axis on my two Saitek TQ's through FSUIPC (reg. ver). To arm I open the throttle window, move the axis handle on the Saitek until the lever on the sim's TQ moves into the armed position. Works like a charm.Jim Dow

Jim,I have GoFlight TQ and I mapped the Spoiler with FSUIPC.But I cannot get it to the armed position.It goes past arm to fully deployed while testing on the ground.So, I use the mouse to arm it prior to landing.Is this true:"Key combination shift # places the spoiler lever in the armed position"I cannot find it in the manuals.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

Jim,I have GoFlight TQ and I mapped the Spoiler with FSUIPC.But I cannot get it to the armed position.It goes past arm to fully deployed while testing on the ground.So, I use the mouse to arm it prior to landing.Is this true:"Key combination shift # places the spoiler lever in the armed position"I cannot find it in the manuals.
Sorry Vonmar, I didn't see your post. I have no answer for you as I don't have any GoFliight products. I would like to be able to afford them, but can't justify those costs.Jim Dow
I have my spoilers mapped to one of the axis on my two Saitek TQ's through FSUIPC (reg. ver). To arm I open the throttle window, move the axis handle on the Saitek until the lever on the sim's TQ moves into the armed position. Works like a charm.Jim Dow
****" To arm I open the throttle window, move the axis handle on the Saitek until the lever on the sim's TQ moves into the armed position."Why do you have to open a "window" first, why can't you just move the lever to the "arm" position?Do you map, via FSUIPC, spoiler zones:DownArmFlight detentGround detent

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

****" To arm I open the throttle window, move the axis handle on the Saitek until the lever on the sim's TQ moves into the armed position."Why do you have to open a "window" first, why can't you just move the lever to the "arm" position?Do you map, via FSUIPC, spoiler zones:DownArmFlight detentGround detent
So I can observe the lever move into the "armed" position. The setting is very sensitive and just a slight position of the Saitek lever above or below the armed position would result in either not arming the spoilers or deploy the spoilers. Just takes a moment to do so when on final as I have a button mapped for the TQ window.Hope this answers your question. It's just my way of doing it.Jim Dow

Jim,Thanks for the reply.Using FSUIPC is actually what I want to do with my GoFlight throttle quadrant (spoiler axis / Lever).Using FSUIPC, it should be possible to set up the spoiler (or any other axis) to have the correct "armed zone", with some dead space on each side, so you can actually use the spoiler lever without opening a software "window" first to verify the exact correct position.Also. your "window" is not the same as the PMDG throttles view .. correct?Based on what you said, FSUIPC is not set up ... optimum.Also, you have not set up all possible zones (I previously asked: Do you map, via FSUIPC, spoiler zones:)DownArm detentFlight detentGround detent So, I am still wondering if anybody has been able to set up the PMDG spoilers with FSUIPC?

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

Jim,Thanks for the reply.Using FSUIPC is actually what I want to do with my GoFlight throttle quadrant (spoiler axis / Lever).Using FSUIPC, it should be possible to set up the spoiler (or any other axis) to have the correct "armed zone", with some dead space on each side, so you can actually use the spoiler lever without opening a software "window" first to verify the exact correct position.Also. your "window" is not the same as the PMDG throttles view .. correct?Based on what you said, FSUIPC is not set up ... optimum.Also, you have not set up all possible zones (I previously asked: Do you map, via FSUIPC, spoiler zones:)DownArm detentFlight detentGround detent So, I am still wondering if anybody has been able to set up the PMDG spoilers with FSUIPC?
Vaughan;["Using FSUIPC, it should be possible to set up the spoiler (or any other axis) to have the correct "armed zone", with some dead space on each side, so you can actually use the spoiler lever without opening a software "window" first to verify the exact correct position."] I suppose I could fiddle a little more with it to see if a dead zone could be increased.["Also. your "window" is not the same as the PMDG throttles view .. correct?"] I am using the PMDG 737. So the "window" I open is the PMDG TQ. ["Based on what you said, FSUIPC is not set up ... optimum."] Not sure what you mean here.["Also, you have not set up all possible zones (I previously asked: Do you map, via FSUIPC, spoiler zones:)DownArm detentFlight detentGround detent So, I am still wondering if anybody has been able to set up the PMDG spoilers with FSUIPC?"] I don't the spoiler lever is programmed in the product for all those positions. Maybe I'm wrong on that though. But I haven't seen it operate that way.Jim Dow

Not to confuse the issue but here is a guide for CH controls, including the throttle quad, for FSX but FS9 should be about the same. Go down top the axis calibration section. This is for a registered version of FSUIPC.http://forum.simflight.com/topic/53577-setting-thrust-reverse-prop-feather-and-mixture-idle-cutoff/With FSUIPC I would not use the CH Control Manager or if using the Saitek anything of the kind.As explained in this thread the FSUIPC axis controls supply a higher resolution of movement values then CH Control Manager. It might do the same for your throttle quad. This just follows up on setting the window about the arm position.All FSUIPC axis calibrations have the ability to modify a curve for non-linear sensitivity. As an example, for my pedal yaw control I have it less sensitive around the center but more so toward the ends of the range. This helps with nose wheel steering for taxiing purposes keeping the aircraft straight. (There is also a "tiller" feature in FSUIPC which I don't use regarding the yaw axis. If your ground speed fall below a certain value yaw (nose wheel) sensitivity is decreased simulating the steering sensitivity of an engaged tiller.)I should mention that most FSUIPC aircraft settings can be made aircraft specific by having the aircraft loaded when you go to FSUIPC via the FS Module Menu Dropdown and then in FSUIPC check the Aircraft Specific box. I am attaching an image of a rudder non-linear sensitivity curve I use. It might help with your spoiler calibration.

Jim,"So, I am still wondering if anybody has been able to set up the PMDG spoilers with FSUIPC?"]I don't the spoiler lever is programmed in the product for all those positions. Maybe I'm wrong on that though. But I haven't seen it operate that way.Jim Dow "Do you ever use the spoiler during normal flight (not including landing)?

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

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