I have been getting a bit frustrated with the default FSX ATC of late so I was wondering what other simmers tend to like when flying offline. I tend to fly executive jets most of the time, but FSX IFR is so awful I tend to avoid it and rather fly without.....Any comments appreciated !!..G

I don't see VoxATC in that list?

I don't see VoxATC in that list?

Consider it added !!G

I prefer default ATC. I tried Radar Contact, and my one major gripe about it is the ATC communication with AI traffic. For one, there seemed to be a major lack of airline callsigns in the RC vocabulary. Also, the communication between AI aircraft and ATC seemed to be a lot less frequent when using RC. As I have a lot of AI installed, I like to hear them all making contact with ATC when I'm up in the air in FSX. I spend a lot of time adding AI to my sim, and I just couldn't do without that in FSX. If Radar Contact addressed those two issues, then I'd opt for RC hands down, but not until then. Yes, the ATC communication is generally more realistic in RC, but if you only hear AI aircraft making contact with ATC once in every blue moon then that just spoils it IMO.

VATSIM and IVAO!

Well, I prefer default ATC. Not because I particularly care for it however...Radar Contact doesn't do GA, which is a big no no for me. VoxATC is way to rigid, and often if you try to speak naturally and from memory, it will kick it back as you really need to read the window. Not really tried anything else.

Well, I prefer default ATC. Not because I particularly care for it however...Radar Contact doesn't do GA, which is a big no no for me. VoxATC is way to rigid, and often if you try to speak naturally and from memory, it will kick it back as you really need to read the window. Not really tried anything else.

Just had the same conversation in the "other" forums but it is still relevant to this discussion. http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=273954 Just in case you guys want to read...-P

Well, I prefer default ATC. Not because I particularly care for it however...Radar Contact doesn't do GA, which is a big no no for me. VoxATC is way to rigid, and often if you try to speak naturally and from memory, it will kick it back as you really need to read the window. Not really tried anything else.

Saw this thread, I'm having a real problem with the default FSX-ATC, instructing me to fly Rnwy 27 over a mountain to Princess Julianna when it's "crazy-difficult" to do. I fly GA mostly, but am getting into commercial jets; does PFE work with GA, and no requirement for a microphone? I don't mind some reality, but talking into a mike is just too much for me, I'll just get confused verbalizing responses back to ATC.

I prefer default ATC. I tried Radar Contact, and my one major gripe about it is the ATC communication with AI traffic. For one, there seemed to be a major lack of airline callsigns in the RC vocabulary. Also, the communication between AI aircraft and ATC seemed to be a lot less frequent when using RC. As I have a lot of AI installed, I like to hear them all making contact with ATC when I'm up in the air in FSX. I spend a lot of time adding AI to my sim, and I just couldn't do without that in FSX. If Radar Contact addressed those two issues, then I'd opt for RC hands down, but not until then. Yes, the ATC communication is generally more realistic in RC, but if you only hear AI aircraft making contact with ATC once in every blue moon then that just spoils it IMO.

This was my experience with RC also, right now I like Default ATC, but modified with FS Edit Voicepack, which greatly expands the call signs, and adds a little more realistic phraseology to the default, like winds and direction at takeoff.

Saw this thread, I'm having a real problem with the default FSX-ATC, instructing me to fly Rnwy 27 over a mountain to Princess Julianna when it's "crazy-difficult" to do. I fly GA mostly, but am getting into commercial jets; does PFE work with GA, and no requirement for a microphone? I don't mind some reality, but talking into a mike is just too much for me, I'll just get confused verbalizing responses back to ATC.

Don't know about PFE, but Radar Contact would resolve your problem. Doesn't require a mic, but more to the point, you can request a different runway whatever the weather. So your St Maarten issue would be easily resolved. Of course, you might end up landing with an 80kt tailwind, but to be honest, most of the time dflt ATC will choose a direction whatever the wind speed, and it's nuts that you can't swap over when the prevailing winds are +/- 2 kts. RC works nicely, although isn't without its drawbacks. RC5 please, the sooner the better.

I use default ATC but I really don't fly IFR with it. I fly IFR on my own (I can vector myself thank you lol), otherwise I fly IFR on VATSIM.So offline = default or noneOnline = vatsim

Don't know about PFE, but Radar Contact would resolve your problem. Doesn't require a mic, but more to the point, you can request a different runway whatever the weather. So your St Maarten issue would be easily resolved. Of course, you might end up landing with an 80kt tailwind, but to be honest, most of the time dflt ATC will choose a direction whatever the wind speed, and it's nuts that you can't swap over when the prevailing winds are +/- 2 kts. RC works nicely, although isn't without its drawbacks. RC5 please, the sooner the better.

Yes,PFE supports IFR and VFR with GA or Jets... It also supports the ability to close a certain end of a runway within PFE so you NEVER get routed to that end of a runway for landing, takeoff or both...-Paul

Yes, the ATC communication is generally more realistic in RC, but if you only hear AI aircraft making contact with ATC once in every blue moon then that just spoils it IMO.

I don't seem to have that problem in RC (at least I don't think so), as my AI aircraft are constantly talking to ATC. Maybe it has something to do with fsuipc settings (like the TCAS range?). Anyhow, I have been very happy with RC and really have had almost no problems with it.

Offline I use PFE. When I'm tired and just want to hop in and take off without thinking too much I'll use the default ATC. I have RC but PFE is alot less of a hassle to save and resume flights. Plus the quick key reference program is nice too.Online is VATSIM.

Yes,PFE supports IFR and VFR with GA or Jets... It also supports the ability to close a certain end of a runway within PFE so you NEVER get routed to that end of a runway for landing, takeoff or both...-Paul

After seeing all the above, I'm leaning towards PFE, just want to know if it works without a mike, thanks.