After seeing all the above, I'm leaning towards PFE, just want to know if it works without a mike, thanks.

Yes sir, can be done with simple keyboard commands or you can fly with a virtual co-pilot who handles comms for you...-Paul

I don't seem to have that problem in RC (at least I don't think so), as my AI aircraft are constantly talking to ATC. Maybe it has something to do with fsuipc settings (like the TCAS range?). Anyhow, I have been very happy with RC and really have had almost no problems with it.

What seems to be missing, is the intermediate altitude instructions for AI aircraft, I do get them for my user aircraft though.

Yes sir, can be done with simple keyboard commands or you can fly with a virtual co-pilot who handles comms for you...-Paul

Paul,What about voice commands for 'pilot-flying' in PFE? This is one of the only programs I have not tried. I like VOXATC except that it does not always pick up my words and there voices are too limited. I have had too many flights ruined by default ATC.Keith

I voted for VOX ATC, it's best by very far (after online) to me, since you really need to talk to it. SuperATC/RC4 combo is still basically pressing the keys with voice commands, not really too exciting.Cheers,Dirk.

Another vote for VoxATC here. I love the fact you have to talk to back to ATC, even if it is still reading responses off the screen, plus when ATC speaks to AI aircraft it reads their correct airline callsigns (even those not included in FSX by default), due to VOX using TTS (text-to-speech). Would never go back to the default ATC now.

I voted for VoxATC. As a retired Airline Pilot I have tried the default ATC and Radar Contact with SuperATC and found them totally unsuitable for the serious simmer who uses FS to practice his flying and radio skills before progressing to his/her PPL. I appreciate that a lot of work has obviously been put into their development and they are fine for those that just want to add a little something to their sim experience. However, for those who want to practice their Circuits, VFR flying or IFR Procedures, I have found that VoxATC is is excellent. It sticks strictly to the FAA and CAA R/T phraseology and procedures, which is what the budding pilot needs. With the taxyway green centerline guidance lights, it guides you from your Parking Gate to the Holding Point, where you are held by a Red Light bar until you get Line Up clearance; just as found at most major airports that have a Ground Control Freq. All of the other features, like ATC Clearances and the correction of a mistake in a Clearance readback, are an accurate representation of real life flying! I say a big thank you to all the enthusiasts who have obviously spent many hours working on addon software and hardware for this wonderful piece of technology. As an airline training captain, for more years than I care to remember, I have seen the great benefits that FS has brought to trainee pilots; that is why I spent the last number of years since I retired, building my own sim from bits and pieces and the many addons now available. VoxATC is The final bit in the jigsaw!!Tom.

I got a kick out of VOXATC when the controller was referring to UPS literally as Ups as opposed to Downs or correctly sounded out U- P- S. But other than that, I would say a good headset will help VOXATC hear you well enough without too many requests to repeat. Can you add additional voices to VOXATC?Thanks!

Interesting results from the poll so far. So someone says Radar Contact doesn't do general aviation... What exactly does that mean? I'm a huge GA flyer and tend to stay away from larger airports. I want something better than default that allows me to fly in the pattern and make short approaches, or get "the option," rather than the touch n go clearance from default.edit: I watched the video from vox atc but wonder if there is one from the US. There are a lot of differences between US and UK, and I fly mainly in the US, so I'd like something that caters to the USA.

Interesting results from the poll so far. So someone says Radar Contact doesn't do general aviation... What exactly does that mean?

I think the person above meant "doesn't do VFR". I never heard about RC not doing general aviation - that would actually make little sense. I am not RC user but based on numerous posts from the RC forum it was clear that GA was handled just fine.

I got a kick out of VOXATC when the controller was referring to UPS literally as Ups as opposed to Downs or correctly sounded out U- P- S. But other than that, I would say a good headset will help VOXATC hear you well enough without too many requests to repeat. Can you add additional voices to VOXATC?Thanks!

There are different versions, check out here:www.voxatc.comDirk.

edit: I watched the video from vox atc but wonder if there is one from the US. There are a lot of differences between US and UK, and I fly mainly in the US, so I'd like something that caters to the USA.

VOX ATC uses location specific ATC differences.There is a demo you can download and use for 7 days unlimited, and can fly anywhere in the FSX world to try out, which I'm sure would help your decision.

Interesting to see that RC seems to be the most popular choice by far. With v5 adding in support for VFR it is very tempting, is there any ETA on when it is going to be available ??G

Interesting to see that RC seems to be the most popular choice by far. With v5 adding in support for VFR it is very tempting, is there any ETA on when it is going to be available ??G

"Quality not Calendar" is John and Doug's motto for RC so no, I'm afraid a release date is not available. However, purchasers of v4.3 will get a substantial discount on v5 which is a major rewrite over v4.3.

I use the default, with a modifier by EditVoicePak X, as well as logging on to LiveATC in the region I'm flying in.

"Quality not Calendar" is John and Doug's motto for RC so no, I'm afraid a release date is not available. However, purchasers of v4.3 will get a substantial discount on v5 which is a major rewrite over v4.3.

From that I take it we won't be seeing it any time soon ?? I may well end up getting 4.3, just wanted to make sure that 5.0 is not going to show up in the immeadiate future.. ..G