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Sad news: XP / Vista Support has ended!

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Yes.Please get rid of XP. All the computers at college still use it. It makes me want to kill myself every time I log on. I'm just glad I've got a nice Thinkpad with W7 pro on it so I don't have to touch XP there anymore.
LOL! I do wonder why certain Windows 7 'converts' are always so anxious to chastise (implied or otherwise) those of us who, after much consideration, have elected to say with an operating system that has served us very well for so many years.Well, I'll tell you briefly why I'm one of those stalwarts. I like XP 32bit for its stability and flexibility in allowing me to do just about everything I want in terms of customization and running all the software that interests me. I like XP because it has resisted all my attempts to muck things up when I have indulged in hardware and harddrive configuration changes. I like XP because I have never had to reinstall the operating system since my last system build 4 years ago. I like XP because FSX runs well enough and FS9 and X-Plane 9 both run great. I could go on and on, but suffice it to say that my rig has to handle everything including the proverbial kitchen sink and nothing has persuaded me that any other operating system will do any better. Lastly, I like XP because I am familiar with it and, so far, have been able to troubleshoot myself out of any hitches that come along from time to time, and I know how to maintain it well to keep everything running smoothly. It's been an entertaining learning experience and that sometimes hard-won knowledge gained will doubtless serve me well in the future.Where is the incentive to change? Everything I use works and works well and that is the 'problem' facing Microsoft. In XP they produced a damn good operating system, so much so, in fact, that thousands of businesses across the world cannot presently justify the expenditure to make any changes. Why should they? All their systems continue to run just fine under XP Pro. Indeed some may still be happily using Windows 2000.VISTA turned out to be something of an embarrassment for Microsoft. However, I do believe that even this bloated operating system with SP2 is now working well for most folk that hastened to take the plunge. After all their trials and tribulations I am sure many of these users will also be feeling like me and will not be wishing to change yet awhile.Windows 7 is, I am sure, a mistake corrected and by all accounts seems to be another fine operating system for Microsoft. Yes, it has a fancier GUI, boots faster and will run all the latest and greatest for those that need to be in that position. Right now and for the forseeable future, or at least until 2014 when support for XP (SP3) ends, I along with many others do not feel that need. Upgrading to Windows 7 would be upgrading just for the sake of upgrading and we all know what a hassle that can be in the initial stages as you try to re-establish and reconfigure everything. I have neither the time nor the inclination.Doubtless, all you Windows 7 aficionados had your legitimate reasons for upgrading. I respect that decision just as I would hope that you would respect my decision to stay with XP. Repeated taunts will only ever be met with derision from those much more savvy than yourselves. I will change when it suits me or when circumstances force me to do so.Mike

I have 2 machines with XP and one with Win 7 64, they all run great with 0 problems.

Jay

VISTA turned out to be something of an embarrassment for Microsoft. However, I do believe that even this bloated operating system with SP2 is now working well for most folk that hastened to take the plunge. After all their trials and tribulations I am sure many of these users will also be feeling like me and will not be wishing to change yet awhile.
Well I'm certainly in this camp. I won't change to W7 because Vista works just fine for me and always has done. Maybe I've been lucky or something but I have vista on three machines here (both 32 and 64 bit) and since day 1 have never had problems with any app or driver. As well as running FSX, I also run, Office Pro, Adobe Master Suite CS4 and Visual Studio. Never seen a BSOD (unlike XP which I used to run :( ) so no need to change until support stops or a newer operating system offers me something I need that I haven't got.

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Mike Martin

Get rid of XP!.............
No.
I love XP, works great with my FS9 setup. Most companies and or end users see no need for W7 outside of pretty graphics and more Apple like features. It's great people are finding they only need to upgrade when they themselves feel the need to not some billion dollar corporation...
.............Windows 7 is, I am sure, a mistake corrected and by all accounts seems to be another fine operating system for Microsoft. Yes, it has a fancier GUI, boots faster and will run all the latest and greatest for those that need to be in that position. Right now and for the forseeable future, or at least until 2014 when support for XP (SP3) ends, I along with many others do not feel that need. Upgrading to Windows 7 would be upgrading just for the sake of upgrading and we all know what a hassle that can be in the initial stages as you try to re-establish and reconfigure everything. I have neither the time nor the inclination.Doubtless, all you Windows 7 aficionados had your legitimate reasons for upgrading. I respect that decision just as I would hope that you would respect my decision to stay with XP. Repeated taunts will only ever be met with derision from those much more savvy than yourselves. I will change when it suits me or when circumstances force me to do so.Mike
Everything regarding XP and Win7 is well said here.

I've found Windows 7 to be a huge hassle when editing anything in FS because of write protection problems, For some reason I just can't turn it off permanently.

The following link sets out Microsoft's position on all its products. http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectSupport for FS2004 ended on 13 Jan2009. That for FSX Deluxe will end on 10 Jan 2012 and Acceleration on 10 Jan 2013. I have no idea in practice what this means to users!

Gerry Howard

an XP vs. Win7 war .. to funny!

The following link sets out Microsoft's position on all its products. http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectSupport for FS2004 ended on 13 Jan2009. That for FSX Deluxe will end on 10 Jan 2012 and Acceleration on 10 Jan 2013. I have no idea in practice what this means to users!
Activation aside, probably nothing at all. After all, if you have any problems wouldn't AVSIM be your first port of call? I think we all know by now that the knowledge base at AVSIM far exceeds anything Microsoft has to offer and folk here won't rush to tell you to reinstall to resolve a problem ;)Mike
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I've found Windows 7 to be a huge hassle when editing anything in FS because of write protection problems, For some reason I just can't turn it off permanently.
You could have solved ~95% of such problems by NOT installing FS into the default path, but instead directed it to install to (best) a separate HD entirely, or (at least) into its own folder off the root HD, such as C:\FS9 or C:\FSX... :(

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I run a dual boot system with XP 64bit and W7. Both are splendid OSs in my opinion. I like XP 64 because it allows me to use all 4 gigabytes of RAM, and almost everything is compatible with it. I love W7's speed. The only reason I haven't moved over completely to W7 is the fact that some FS addons just don't work well with it.

Joe Sherrill

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