Thanks for the informative read, Tim! I'll be sure to buy it - but I'll get the iFly 737, Aerosoft Airbus and PMDG 737NGX first.

I purchased it last night, and I like it so far. There are a couple of issues, which I may be incorrect about them, but they are as follows:1. Pitch trim is to aggressive like in the CS 727, and setting the pitch trim effectiveness in the aircraft.cfg file to 0.300 doesn't reduce it as well as in the 727.2. No aural warning when reaching the minimum decision height.3. "Don't sink" warning is playing when it shouldn't.4. Flaps display needle sits between flap angle numbers.Other than that, this release seems to be very good so far and I am looking forward to the full manual and more liveries. I am going to do a real flight with this aircraft tonight, and I will report other issues as they come.

I posted screenshots. Of note is the crispness of SHD textures; don't know if we have seen definition like this from an airliner developer before.And I concur with the list of issues cited above.

I posted screenshots. Of note is the crispness of SHD textures; don't know if we have seen definition like this from an airliner developer before.And I concur with the list of issues cited above.

After further review, the flap dial is correct if you look at the flap detents next to the flap lever. The detents are 14, 25, 30, 40, and 50, which if you pay attention to the flap dial, the needle position reflects these numbers by positiong the needle about halfway between 10 and 20 when the flaps are set to 14, and halfway between 20 and 30 when the flaps are at 25. The flaps 30, 40, and 50 markings align to the correct numbers on the dial.

Other than that, this release seems to be very good so far and I am looking forward to the full manual and more liveries. I am going to do a real flight with this aircraft tonight, and I will report other issues as they come.

Well, I did a KPIT to KBOS flight last night, and it went well up until the crash on short final. What happened is I pressed the autopilot disconnect on my throttle, which gave me the warning tone and flashing light associated with an autopilot disconnnect, but as I started moving the yoke, the aircraft was not responding. By the time I checked the autopilot module and noticed that the autopilot switch was still in the "on" position, it was too late. By the time I switched it off, I had lost too much altitude and crashed about a half mile short of the runway threshold. Now, I am not sure if this is a bug, but it would seem to me that when I press the autopilot disconnect on the yoke, I should then have control of the aircraft without also having to toggle the switch on the pedestal. I know I have the yoke programmed properly as the autopilot disconnect functions correctly in all of my other aircraft. Other than that and the previously mentioned issues, I am really enjoying this aircraft and I look forward to installing the CIVA INS and getting to the level that I can fly this aircraft on VATSIM.

I don't know what happened with the previous attempt, but the manual is out now.

WAY too much money for a sim that is not complete and does not even have 2D panels. I know it seems like 2D is going out of style but I still perfer to do everything but landing and t/o in 2D. I dont have track IR and I just dont think a 23in screen is big enough for the VC. I would buy it if the price went down or had 2D panels.

WAY too much money for a sim that is not complete and does not even have 2D panels. I know it seems like 2D is going out of style but I still perfer to do everything but landing and t/o in 2D. I dont have track IR and I just dont think a 23in screen is big enough for the VC. I would buy it if the price went down or had 2D panels.

I agree with you...no 2D panel is a deal breaker for me. I don't understand why these developers can't just leave the 2D panel in these planes. I am not a developer and probably have no idea what is involved with putting together a 2d panel, but my common sense tells me it can't really be that much extra. If someone knows otherwise, I apologize in advance for my assumption. I have the CS 727 and I pretty much never fly it since there is no 2d panel. I got it for $10 during the annual sale at Captain Sim but otherwise would not have.Cheers, Pete

I'm a big fan of CS. I've bought several of their planes. And I loved the FS9 707, it was the only heavy I flew. But there's no way I'm paying $80Cdn. for the new 707.For that price it should be a complete entire package, ready to go, plus extra goodies. And even then...

CS is getting a lot better, but I would still only buy an airplane at that price from Level-D or PMDG

I agree with you...no 2D panel is a deal breaker for me. I don't understand why these developers can't just leave the 2D panel in these planes. I am not a developer and probably have no idea what is involved with putting together a 2d panel, but my common sense tells me it can't really be that much extra. If someone knows otherwise, I apologize in advance for my assumption. I have the CS 727 and I pretty much never fly it since there is no 2d panel. I got it for $10 during the annual sale at Captain Sim but otherwise would not have.Cheers, Pete

It's actually one the most time consuming parts of making a high end aircraft, your assumption is wrong. In an airliner where you have multiple lighting levels and all of that, every single switch needs sometimes upwards of 10 different bitmaps made, all the panels need to be "networked" via clickspots and shortcuts etc - it's actually a serious pain to do. On our J41 for instance, the lack of 2D is a major reason the price is lower compared to the big airliners we do.

The more I fly this airplane, the more I discover why this is a different kind of CS release. For example, hydraulic pumps must be on or flaps won't work; but the emergency flaps switch on the overhead will make them work. Fuel dumping is possible. And I am really appreciating the super high def in the VC: lettering is crisp and readable and it is overall their best VC to date. That must have taken a LOT of time. The way I look at any payware, whether Captain Sim or PMDG or another, is that per hour of fun they are all cheap for me. As in cheaper per hour than renting a movie, at least after you have any kind of hours at all in them. Even so, I had a bit of sticker shock, because you naturally expect pricing to be in line with what you have seen before from a developer. Maybe the price reflects more work put into this one. Or maybe it is seen as a niche product that requires a higher price to account for lower sales than a more popular 757 or 767. Or maybe our Russian friends at CS are still figuring out this capitalism thing :-)Anyway the nice thing about the free market is that it tends to adjust itself. If sales disappoint, no doubt we'll see it at a reduced price after everyone who is highly motivated to buy a Captain Sim 707 have had their chance.

It's actually one the most time consuming parts of making a high end aircraft, your assumption is wrong. In an airliner where you have multiple lighting levels and all of that, every single switch needs sometimes upwards of 10 different bitmaps made, all the panels need to be "networked" via clickspots and shortcuts etc - it's actually a serious pain to do. On our J41 for instance, the lack of 2D is a major reason the price is lower compared to the big airliners we do.

Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected, and unfortunately sometimes talk out of the arse! In any event, I would be happy to pay more for a 2d panel. I happen to have the PMDG 747x, MD-11X and the J41. I fly the two heavies often and think they are outstanding. On the flip side, I have yet to really experience much of the J41 due mainly to the lack of a 2d panel. It does look like a great aircraft though.Cheers, Pete

Tempted, but I won't be buying it. The only reason might lead to the expected crippling framerates that might occur when loading the aircraft. Dave.