August 19, 201015 yr It's beautiful, as you might expect, and x4 higher def on the outside than their previous ones -- we're calling that what, super high def? Doppler navigation system is modeled, includes wx radar. Niggling problems with previous releases, such as sound issues, do not seem to be present here. Based on a few short flights looks like a clean release, but I'll test it out more thoroughly in the long haul over the weekened. Frarme rates are in line with the 727.
August 19, 201015 yr It's beautiful, as you might expect, and x4 higher def on the outside than their previous ones -- we're calling that what, super high def? Doppler navigation system is modeled, includes wx radar. Niggling problems with previous releases, such as sound issues, do not seem to be present here. Based on a few short flights looks like a clean release, but I'll test it out more thoroughly in the long haul over the weekened. Frarme rates are in line with the 727.I and seriously thinking about this plane, but the price is too high. Maybe during their end of year sale...
August 19, 201015 yr I and seriously thinking about this plane, but the price is too high. Maybe during their end of year sale...Hmmm,if I was them I'd swiftly announce that this one WON'T be in the end of year sale! Or no-one's going to buy it... :( Ian
August 19, 201015 yr I'm sorely tempted, but I don't know - it's expensive, and it appears to have been rushed to market. The manual set is still incomplete, and several features (ACE tool, cabin, liveries, etc) will be released separately in September. I wonder if they had time to test it properly ... Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
August 19, 201015 yr Tim,Can you tell me if the shiny reflective effect of the sun striking the cockpit windows in external view has been toned down some (compared to their 727)? When viewed from certain angles, the 727 looks very unrealistic because of that. John
August 20, 201015 yr Tim,Can you tell me if the shiny reflective effect of the sun striking the cockpit windows in external view has been toned down some (compared to their 727)? When viewed from certain angles, the 727 looks very unrealistic because of that. JohnThat's usually an alpha chanel you can correct yourself if I am not mistaken. Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
August 20, 201015 yr I, too, am very tempted. But as others said, the price is very high. In the coming month or two I expect to buy the iFly 737, the PMDG 737NGX and the Aerosoft Airbus, all will probably be very expensive. I'll buy the CS707 during the end of the year sale, hoping it will also be reduced to 10 dollars. It sure looks very good, though. if it's the same visual quality as the CS727, this aircraft is gonna be a great addon. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
August 20, 201015 yr I love the Lead Sled, so I will be buying this 707, but gotta wait for payday first! Guess it will be time to tighten the resistance spring on my Saitek rudder pedals, in order to simulate how much oomph you have to give a real 707's pedals LOLIt is kind of on the pricey side, but to be fair, I think the days of '30 quid' add-ons that are anything other than 'lite' airliner sims or fairly simple aircraft, are long gone, so the price is more like what we can expect to pay nowadays for a decent in depth simulated aircraft. In fact, I did actually note in my recent Avsim review of the Addictive Simulations Pitts Special that, at 20 quid, I thought they were charging far too little for it.If you want inexpensive add-ons these days, you're more likely to find them for train sims than flight sims, for example, I bought the high nose SD-40 diesel loco for Railworks yesterday - it was a mere 7.99 - however, I can't seem to get it to take off even at full throttle with a light fuel load LOL. Be nice if you could get decent flight sim add-ons for that kind of money!Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
August 20, 201015 yr This beauty looks really good.The Pan Am livery is stunning. It reminds me so much things...I think I will get her soon. - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
August 20, 201015 yr I, too, am very tempted. But as others said, the price is very high. In the coming month or two I expect to buy the iFly 737, the PMDG 737NGX and the Aerosoft Airbus, all will probably be very expensive. I'll buy the CS707 during the end of the year sale, hoping it will also be reduced to 10 dollars. It sure looks very good, though. if it's the same visual quality as the CS727, this aircraft is gonna be a great addon.Sure looks good. I'd love to have this plane and I will buy it if they finish it. I bought the FS9 version as soon as it was released and I'm still waiting for the promised patches for that one. When FSX came out they cancelled all work on the FS9 version and focused on this one. Now an incomplete FSX version is out with a promised free patch and Microsoft just announced the next flight simulator version. I feel like I'm living in a deja vu. I think I'm going to wait until the forums have given this 707 the thumbs up before I purchase. OK who's going to be the first to buy and write a review? [email protected] ghz, Noctua C12P CPU air cooler, Asus Z77, 2 x 4gb DDR3 Corsair 2200 mhz cl 9, EVGA 1080ti, Sony 55" 900E TV 3840 x 2160, Windows 7-64, FSX, P3dv3, P3dv4
August 20, 201015 yr If you want inexpensive add-ons these days, you're more likely to find them for train sims than flight sims, for example, I bought the high nose SD-40 diesel loco for Railworks yesterday - it was a mere 7.99 - however, I can't seem to get it to take off even at full throttle with a light fuel load LOL. Be nice if you could get decent flight sim add-ons for that kind of money!AlAl, I haven't been able to get the SD40-2 to fly yet, but I have been able to get it to lay on its' side a couple of times! :(
August 20, 201015 yr Author The window reflections seem understated to me.The details are crisper than the 727, due no doubt to quadrupling the definition. There's a big, beautiful 3D artifical horizon ball, and all the instruments are easily read with the exception of some on the center console, which are blocked by the yoke and require switching to another view. Previous CS bus like engine sounds in outside view when the engines are off, and a requirement to edit the sound config file to get cockpit sounds are absent. Ihave not experienced any rocking, rolling or autopilot weirdness. Compared to previous 1.0 releases like the 767 (which is now a nice airplane) this looks very clean.One novelty is the doppler navigation system.The way the doppler works is that radar beams are transmitted in different directions and bounced off the ground (or sea -- glassy waters posed a problem because the beams couldn't "bite" as well). A computer measures the doppler effect, or red shift and so keeps track of speed and position. It was pretty accurate, and the principle is still used today in navigation. When INS came along, it looked better than those early doppler systems, and they fell out of favor with airlines.The way CS has implemented this is by simply allowing an FSX flight plan to be loaded, which is then automagically followed by the doppler nav system. A rolling digital display counts down the miles to go, just like on the real one. I have not seen the "selected course" values change according to the flight plan, although you can set it manually if you like. It doesn't seem to matter since the airplane follows the flight plan through all its turns anyway. Once you reach a waypoint, the miles to go counter flips to the new number and you're off. This is handled automatically, just like the real one. A light comes on when you have 10 miles to go. There is another display that indicates how far off track you are, and your ground speed, again, based on the doppler system.Other automatic modes work as well: heading and VOR / LOC, although the latter shows a bit of "hunting" behavior and is not as rock solid as the doppler, again probably realistic. The autopilot controls seem a lot less fiddly than the 727's, although similar. It will hold altitude for you, and climb or descent is controlled by pitch. One thing it won't do for you is hold your speed, since there is no autothrottle. So while your navigation is automatic, a certain amount of babysitting is required for maintaining a constant speed. This is one change I would like to see: a cheat to hold speed. As it is now, a seven hour flight to Europe is going to require your attention for seven hours. Not unrelieved attention, but I wouldn't want to go grocery shopping and come back to expect the speed to be anywhere near where I left it.If you are a fan of big flaps, this is your airplane! If you are a CIVA INS fan, know that a separate CIVA-friendly panel has been included for do it yourself addition. If you enjoy looking at women in uniform, there is a stewardess.It has working weather radar. As has been observed, certain things are coming out later, such as the ACE loading utility, cabin announcements and the rest of the manual. The only issue I've found so far is that the analog altimeter is not displaying correctly -- this is a confirmed bug. The digital readout is fine. The flap readout seems to be between the numbers, rather than right on them; I'm not qualified to comment more on that.The aesthetic is the familiar distressed look that Captain Sim favors, only perhaps not so much here. There is no main 2D panel, similar to the 727. There is no tutorial, although a short "test flight" flight plan is included. Cold and dark and ready for takeoff situations are included. There is no APU that I can find (realistic, I believe) so starting is done by external power and air.Right now I'm cruising with the EPR showing 1.98; that seems to be where the speed sits the best. I could not climb at 250 kts all the way, for what it's worth, but I was able to reach 33,000 feet without difficulty.It cost about $73 US dollars. That probably puts it out of the "impulse buy" category; you'd have to be fairly motivated to have a 707 (which I was). Now that I have it, I feel it was worth the money, which I would not have felt with a buggy release like the first 767. Captain Sim has listened to complaints and requests from previous releases. Now the speed bugs can be set. You can supposedly add the CIVA INS, thanks to their panel alternative (although I haven't done so, so can't comment on that). It is pretty easy to fly. It would have to be since the normal operations manual isn't out yet!
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