August 27, 200322 yr >Do the same on any other running utilities (i.e. FDC, RC) and>select the other virtual processor.In the processes window there are a lot of processes running (over 20); however, the only application listed in the applications window is fs9. Is this normal or do I need to be running End it All?If I need End it All, the only version I can find (end it all2) does not list that it supports XP. Will this version still work with XP or is there another version that I should be looking for?Now, if it is normal that all of these other processes should be running, which ones should I set to run on the other virtual processor? When I was reading up on the IMAGECFG utility, I read a few warnings about permantly changing the affinity of certain process.Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this stuff. MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
August 27, 200322 yr Your motherboard and RAM is the same as mine. To go hyperthreading you need the 3.06Ghz P4 with 533 bus. You also need the correct bios from ASUS. Early versions did not recognise hyperthreading CPU's.RegardsHoward
August 27, 200322 yr Author Hi Bob,Thanks for a great tip! I put ACOF on CPU 0 and wxRE on CPU 1 and I can't believe the difference. I've got frames locked at 25 but now it never budges from that, even in fairly heavy cloud cover. Still get a sizeable drop in overcast but my new video card should help with that.Thanks, again for a great idea!My system:PIV 2.6 HT 800mhz FSB512 PC2700 RAMGF4 MX440 (I know, I know, replacement ordered)80gb 7200 HDBest, Gerald EAA #: 1317747 i7 8700K 6-Core 3.7GHz (4.5GHz); ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I Gaming ; RTX 2070 Super Turbo 8GB; 32GB G.Skill TridentZ 3000MHz; 250GB Samsung 960 Evo PCIe NVMe M.2; 2x 500GB Samsung 850 Evo Series SSD; 1TB WD Black HDD; Win10 Pro 64; P3D 4.5
August 27, 200322 yr Hi thereThis is an interesting tip - but surprisingly it does nothing for my system at all. I'm changing the affinity of FS9 to use CPU0 only instead of 0 and 1. Is that correct?Hyperthreading is enabled in my bios.Is it just the luck of the draw??regards:-waveP4 2.8 800MhzAopen AX4SG-N1028Mb PC3200 @ 400Radeon 9800pro 128Mb
August 27, 200322 yr >Wow Bob, this is amazing I just doubled my performance, I'm>getting steady 50-60 FPS in worst conditions.UHHMM!!! :-eek Holy cow, lucky boy!!I still have to stick with my poor old P4 1.8... :-(
August 27, 200322 yr Author Yep, that's what I did. Not sure why this doesn't work for all. I really see a difference when wxRE is running and there are clouds up to about 58 broken. After that, the overcast slowdown kicks in. I'm not getting anything like a 50% increase, but easily am getting 4-8fps higher across the board.I locked at 25fps so that I can kick the scenery and autogen density to max. I already had terrain at 100% and almost everything else maxed except mip-mapping at 4 and local textures at high, instead of maxed. I run traffic at 56% because I find this still to be the biggest drain on performance, next to overcast.Sorry this didn't work for you...:( Best, Gerald EAA #: 1317747 i7 8700K 6-Core 3.7GHz (4.5GHz); ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I Gaming ; RTX 2070 Super Turbo 8GB; 32GB G.Skill TridentZ 3000MHz; 250GB Samsung 960 Evo PCIe NVMe M.2; 2x 500GB Samsung 850 Evo Series SSD; 1TB WD Black HDD; Win10 Pro 64; P3D 4.5
August 27, 200322 yr Try this:Fire up FS9, but do not change the processor affinity yet. Start task manager, select performance tab. You should see two side-by-side moving charts under the top heading "CPU Usage History." First, do you see two, and second, are they both maxxed out at 100% with FS9 running?If there is only one CPU load graph, most likely you don't have HT on...either it' deselected in BIOS, or you have a mobo or older BIOS that doesn't support HT.If only one of the graphs is firewalled to 100% with FS9 running, something in your config already has FS9 constrained to a single vCPU, so this tweak would have no effect.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, D.C. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 27, 200322 yr No...I don't see any drawbacks whatsoever. All you're doing is telling FS9 to confine itself to running on only one virtual CPU. It tells XP "leave me here", and XP deals with everything else normally.Bob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, D.C. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 27, 200322 yr Bob, thanks again. I cannot locate imagecfg.exe. Do you have any suggestions, or could you please post it?Regards,Howard Howard Jetline Systems: Intel 8th Gen Core i7 8700K (4.8GHz Overclock); GTX 1080 Ti; LG Curved UltraWide 3440x1440 Monitor .
August 27, 200322 yr Two quick questions here please.1) I see that my HT is enabled. If I select the Affinity as described in the inital post here, when I shut the machine down and boot back up again later, will all the settings be reset to the way it was before making the changes (my preference)?2) I find I have really good frame rates now except when over a complete undercast. However, even when I'm displaying fps' in the hundreds, I get very noticeable stutters as others have reported (yup, looked at all the tweaks and have most of them employed, including reducing the sound acceleration). Does this "mod" affect the stuttering problem, or does it only act on frame rates?Thanks very much for this, and for the initial suggestion!GlennP4 3.0 GHz, 800 FSB, H/T1 GB DDR RAM (Kingston)ATI9800 Pro 256Soundblaster Audigy Gamer
August 27, 200322 yr 1. If you manually select the set affinity setting in task manager, it is for the current session only.2. I have no stuttering here, but if you have your frame rate in the 100+ range, you aren't leaving enough headroom for the CPU to do its housekeeping. Try setting fram rate slider to 20-25. The affinity setting may help with microstutters, in that it stops CPU cache swaps as threads are moved between vCPUs to balance loading. That's my theory, anyway.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, D.C. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 27, 200322 yr I found imagecfg here: http://users.aol.com/axcel216/xptoy.htmCheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, D.C. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 27, 200322 yr Thanks for this. Yes, I normally lock my frames at 35, but still have the stuttering. We'll give it a go then. Thanks again,Glenn
August 28, 200322 yr Hey Bob, tell me how performance compares when you DISABLE HT in the BIOS, ie where your single physical processor does the whole thing. I think this is where the rubber meets the road perhaps. It seems these reports of doubled performance is in the context of comparing against HT enabled but non-tweaked, no? I am running a non-HT CPU at 3GHz and have totally smooth and fluid performance in all areas, with max autogen, high-max 100% 3D detailed clouds out to full distance, 100% terrain mesh sliders using 9.6m mesh. I run at either 1600 x 1200 x 32 with 2xAA & 16xAF, or 1800 x 1400 x 32 with no AA, and I have had some slowdowns with multi-layered weather when fairly close to dense clouds but otherwise nothings seems to get me off a 22 fps lock. If I happen to get into nasty close in weather I will alt-tab to 1280 x 1024 x 32 and it returns from 14-15 back up to 22fps. The lowest perf in 1280 x 1024 x 32 x 2xAA x 16xAF is about 18 in the very worst of conditions possible, even at densely populated big terminals with traffic, weather, etc.Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
August 28, 200322 yr So much for some early press reports about FS9 that were louding this sim to be HT-optimized. It looks like the reverse is actually true.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg Michael J.
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