Yup, the lines of that airplane simply never gets old... even when placed next to other more recent designs and the big airliners, the the airplane simply makes a statement on its own (and to be honest, a good bunch of airline pilots I've talked really wanted to have the chance to fly it)... And I agree, there may be lots more hoping for a new King Air 350 for the sim, but no response... AFG's 300 was the most viable (they said that there was a chance for them to rework it to the 350, but it didn't happened), with the fuselage stretch (& associated textures) & winglets being the only ones that needed to be worked upon (their VC only requires one more switch position on the overhead panel and changeout of the prop synch switch back to the default), and they pretty much nailed it... unfortunately, their site went offline a few weeks ago, and nobody in their team is responding to my requests anymore (since last year actually)... So maybe its up to somebody to do it finally (hopefully, rather)... anyone?

I guess if you'd make a poll which Dash8 version to model the Q400 would make it. It's just the most modern plane of the -8's.Anyway.. I think it's much too early to think about the over-next turboprop.. first comes the NGX, then J41 SP2, then -8, then 777, and maybe then the next commuter..

And you are the scheduler for PMDG? YOU decide what comes in what order??

i would vote for the twinotter-400 by viking air because the ones that alredy exist suck and it has to have the max seating config and i think it would be nice to see the pt 6-35 engines in pmdgs quality and the onley thing that would be diffrent then the real aircraft would be 4 blade props

the fairchild metroliner 23 would be nice or the saab 340b+ with the extended span wings the shorts 360-300 would also be nice all would have to have athentic cockpits though 100% moving parts including doors flaps gear and full interor simulations including ac sounds apu sounds and all cabin seats singns lights and tray tables animated and movible and most importent acuret max grosewaights/mto/mlw and zfws .

Yup, the lines of that airplane simply never gets old... even when placed next to other more recent designs and the big airliners, the the airplane simply makes a statement on its own (and to be honest, a good bunch of airline pilots I've talked really wanted to have the chance to fly it)... And I agree, there may be lots more hoping for a new King Air 350 for the sim, but no response... AFG's 300 was the most viable (they said that there was a chance for them to rework it to the 350, but it didn't happened), with the fuselage stretch (& associated textures) & winglets being the only ones that needed to be worked upon (their VC only requires one more switch position on the overhead panel and changeout of the prop synch switch back to the default), and they pretty much nailed it... unfortunately, their site went offline a few weeks ago, and nobody in their team is responding to my requests anymore (since last year actually)... So maybe its up to somebody to do it finally (hopefully, rather)... anyone?

Nah, Dash 8 looks better.

I guess this is a case of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" thing There are Dash 8s operating here (flown by Air Philippines Express), 3 Q300s & 5 Q400s. I flew an "airline rescue" flight last year for a Q300 that wasn't able to depart from a community airport because of faulty starter/generators. I agree though, that the Dash 8s are very nice looking airplanes. I like the Q400 in particular. That one puts sleek & sexy back on commuter turboprops... (not to mention it clearly defines the quiet on the Q series ) King Airs are on a (bit) different place from the commuter turboprops, they have their own style that has that certain appeal when sitting beside other airplanes, jets & props alike... but maybe that's just how I'm attached to the airplane I'm flying for a living but I'm with you on this, I really like a PMDG Q400 too, along with the 350

hans how abaut a pmdg lear 60 XR or the lear 85how baught a a320neo or crj 1000 NG ERthe briten norman turbine islander or the resip trislander amairican perduced modle though pleasepiper navajo chieften i know this is a tp forum but just thaught this plane would be nicehans its up to you dude. lol

now abaut the pic that is a great pic of the king air 250 but pmdg needs to develup a kingair 350i and an intior model the 350ier would also be nice but they would have to do two different builds even though the 350 i and 350 ier are bacily the same plane viking turbine bever with 11 seats and 100% cockpit realisum .

Edited September 24, 201114 yr by duchman

just a question has eneyone ben on a dash 8-200 outfited with 39 passenger seats befor be cause i would like to see pics if eneyone has.

A Mitsubishi MU-2 would be pretty cool! A pair of Garrett TPE331's and a really neat stance. And tie in a G600 with a 530! Mmmmmmm. Yummy!

I suppose it's very much a case of what floats your personal boat; anything anyone suggests on here is unlikely to influence PMDG's schedule anyway. As for me, I think the Dash 8 is unweildly looking, I don't doubt that it is a good aerolane, but the long undercarriage legs which retract into the nacelles don't seem to be quite so elegant an engineering solution - at least from a shear-force stresses point of view - as retracting shorter undercarriage legs into a belly fairing, as on the ATR 47 and 72, although on the Dash 7 the different engine layout has the effect of making the arrangement of long undercarriage legs at least look less ungainly. Others will doubtless disagree with that, which is fair enough. But aesthetics aside, if it was up to me - and PMDG may be thinking along the same lines - a smart choice would be to model something that has an engine type which is used, or is likely to be used, on a lot of different aircraft, since that would mean the development work for the engine would go a lot further as far as potential other developments are concerned. This is something A2A have cottoned on to, with their modular approach to producing an AccuSimmed Merlin engine, which they can cheerfully slot into several aircraft because of its modular nature, and they're doing the same thing with the J79 as well. Whatever happens, FS developers certainly need to look at developing turboprops, because that is the growth market for the aviation industry. Inevitably, fuel prices are driving that change, since turboprops use about half as much fuel as jets. Turboprop airliners may be slower, but airlines will look at an hour's longer flight time as a small price to pay for greatly reduced operating costs overall, especially on less well-travelled routes; there is only so much that can be done to make pure jet engines more economical, and they are never going to compete with a turboprop on economics. So a smart FS developer will be watching that trend as well. Al

Whatever happens, FS developers certainly need to look at developing turboprops, because that is the growth market for the aviation industry. Inevitably, fuel prices are driving that change, since turboprops use about half as much fuel as jets. Turboprop airliners may be slower, but airlines will look at an hour's longer flight time as a small price to pay for greatly reduced operating costs overall, especially on less well-travelled routes; there is only so much that can be done to make pure jet engines more economical, and they are never going to compete with a turboprop on economics. So a smart FS developer will be watching that trend as well. Al

well said sir Al

I suppose it's very much a case of what floats your personal boat; anything anyone suggests on here is unlikely to influence PMDG's schedule anyway. As for me, I think the Dash 8 is unweildly looking, I don't doubt that it is a good aerolane, but the long undercarriage legs which retract into the nacelles don't seem to be quite so elegant an engineering solution - at least from a shear-force stresses point of view - as retracting shorter undercarriage legs into a belly fairing, as on the ATR 47 and 72, although on the Dash 7 the different engine layout has the effect of making the arrangement of long undercarriage legs at least look less ungainly. Others will doubtless disagree with that, which is fair enough. But aesthetics aside, if it was up to me - and PMDG may be thinking along the same lines - a smart choice would be to model something that has an engine type which is used, or is likely to be used, on a lot of different aircraft, since that would mean the development work for the engine would go a lot further as far as potential other developments are concerned. This is something A2A have cottoned on to, with their modular approach to producing an AccuSimmed Merlin engine, which they can cheerfully slot into several aircraft because of its modular nature, and they're doing the same thing with the J79 as well. Whatever happens, FS developers certainly need to look at developing turboprops, because that is the growth market for the aviation industry. Inevitably, fuel prices are driving that change, since turboprops use about half as much fuel as jets. Turboprop airliners may be slower, but airlines will look at an hour's longer flight time as a small price to pay for greatly reduced operating costs overall, especially on less well-travelled routes; there is only so much that can be done to make pure jet engines more economical, and they are never going to compete with a turboprop on economics. So a smart FS developer will be watching that trend as well. Al

Well, when you need to retract the gear on an oversized twin otter, you need to ask yourself whether or not the passengers should have their heads restign on the ceiling.

I suppose it's very much a case of what floats your personal boat; anything anyone suggests on here is unlikely to influence PMDG's schedule anyway. As for me, I think the Dash 8 is unweildly looking, I don't doubt that it is a good aerolane, but the long undercarriage legs which retract into the nacelles don't seem to be quite so elegant an engineering solution - at least from a shear-force stresses point of view - as retracting shorter undercarriage legs into a belly fairing, as on the ATR 47 and 72, although on the Dash 7 the different engine layout has the effect of making the arrangement of long undercarriage legs at least look less ungainly. Others will doubtless disagree with that, which is fair enough. But aesthetics aside, if it was up to me - and PMDG may be thinking along the same lines - a smart choice would be to model something that has an engine type which is used, or is likely to be used, on a lot of different aircraft, since that would mean the development work for the engine would go a lot further as far as potential other developments are concerned. This is something A2A have cottoned on to, with their modular approach to producing an AccuSimmed Merlin engine, which they can cheerfully slot into several aircraft because of its modular nature, and they're doing the same thing with the J79 as well. Whatever happens, FS developers certainly need to look at developing turboprops, because that is the growth market for the aviation industry. Inevitably, fuel prices are driving that change, since turboprops use about half as much fuel as jets. Turboprop airliners may be slower, but airlines will look at an hour's longer flight time as a small price to pay for greatly reduced operating costs overall, especially on less well-travelled routes; there is only so much that can be done to make pure jet engines more economical, and they are never going to compete with a turboprop on economics. So a smart FS developer will be watching that trend as well. Al

TLDR version? Anyone?

TLDR version? Anyone?

In words of one syllable or less, just for you: I like planes