Hello allBeen waiting for the 737NGX but ... well, let's not get started on that.So... I thought , I need a good big airplane (I don't have one for FSX) . A few months ago I did buy a certain airliner by a certain certain company that shall remain nameless (it wasn't PMDG BTW) and let's just say that's $50 bucks I've blown.Which brings us to the topic at hand.Which aircraft do you find has better framerates? The JS4100 or the MD11 (both the PMDG versions). Whichever is the better performer framerate wise is the one I will get.thanking you all in advanceHere's my name because I know you guys like to know thatAnthony Lynch

They're very different airplanes in terms of their flight roles. The MD-11 is probably a tad better FPS wise, but the J41 does come with numerous options in the config manager for varying the levels of model and texture detail, the ability to turn the FO side's displays off etc. I'm betting you'll be fine with either. I would decide based on how you want to fly - short haul turboprop and long haul widebody jet are two completely different things.

For me the MD-11 has a better frame rate, the J41 being the newer PMDG developed plane looks nicer (MD-11 looks great too) and does have scaling options (as Ryan pointed out).

On FPS, the MD11 is better for me. Great little bird. Pros: Fun, nothing else like it and the FS2Crew add-on is great. Cons: No panel save or failure mode. I have largely stopped flying the Queen, and fly these two pretty much exclusively.

For me, they have both been pretty close but I think the MD-11 is a bit better. Although not so much better that I would let it effect my decision which to buy.

I get about 7 FPS more in the MD-11, but for smaller regional airports that the JS41 flies to you should get great FPS regardless. It is heavey enough on resources though,so unless you've got a custom gaming PC, don't be expecting anything above 25FPS in the VC as airports with traffic... MD-11 is great, it's my all time favourite FSXplane... but I prefare long haul flying, so the choice is yours...

Hello all... Whichever is the better performer framerate wise is the one I will get. ...

I have to say that I think that is a really dumb way to chose anything. Did you think the other aircraft you mention was rubbish because the pilots hair was parted the wrong way?

Pick the blue one

MD-11 is faster, but the J41 is by no means bad. You should really do yourself a favor and get both

I have to say that I think that is a really dumb way to chose anything. Did you think the other aircraft you mention was rubbish because the pilots hair was parted the wrong way?

Ah, yeah, I'll bet that when he took time off from developing one of the most enjoyable payware aircraft ever built for FSX, he picked a stupid superficial reason to dislike the other aircraft.Tip: Google and click links before you shoot from the hip.Cheers!Alan Ampolsk

Thanks for the replies guys.I think I will go with the J41. Anything I lose in the poorer framerates over the MD11 hopefully I can pick up by flying to less framerate hungry regional airports.PS.Thanks Alan for watching my back there. I usually just try to ignore the negative nellies :( .Anthony Lynch

Ah, yeah, I'll bet that when he took time off from developing one of the most enjoyable payware aircraft ever built for FSX, he picked a stupid superficial reason to dislike the other aircraft.Tip: Google and click links before you shoot from the hip.Cheers!Alan Ampolsk

Are you assuming that the OP is the same person who created the excellent freeware Tiger Moth (which I have) just because they have a similar name, or do you know something more concrete? Even if he is the same person, and even if he is currently creating the greatest add-on FSX has ever seen, picking between two such different payware aircraft based on something as arbitrary as frame rates is still just as dumb as not liking something because of the pilots hair style.

Good choice Ant, the JS41 is a great add-on, though the A2A Spit is what im flying latley! Going to fly from YBBN-YBUD tomorrow in the JS41 :D

Are you assuming that the OP is the same person who created the excellent freeware Tiger Moth (which I have) just because they have a similar name, or do you know something more concrete? Even if he is the same person, and even if he is currently creating the greatest add-on FSX has ever seen, picking between two such different payware aircraft based on something as arbitrary as frame rates is still just as dumb as not liking something because of the pilots hair style.

Ah, yes, I'm "assuming" that, based on the fact that they have identical names and identical signatures used across multiple forums over multiple years, as well as a style of communication that carries across all those posts. Plus there are the links to his site in his sig. Haven't asked for a DNA sample, though, if that's what you mean.Also, I'm not sure I agree that performance on a system (i.e., frame rates) is as trivial a consideration as a minor graphic complaint. Poor graphic performance can cripple the illusion of being there, and therefore ruin enjoyment. There are plenty of worthy products that I've had to avoid at times because my system wasn't up to running them. I was years late getting to some of the Eaglesoft GA stuff because two computers ago, I couldn't handle their glass - frames were in the single digits and they were essentially unflyable. Once I upgraded, I was able to use them. Doesn't make sense to me to equate something like that with not liking the pilot's hair style. Finally, from a GA driver's perspective, the J41 and the MD11 are similar in the sense that they're systems-heavy commercial aircraft. Obviously they're very different kinds of commercial aircraft with different missions. But it all depends on where you're coming from. I'm a GA flyer just beginning to try out the heavies, and I've been thinking along similar lines. Right now I'm learning the 747-400 - my first PMDG - via the AOA video tutorials. At some point I'm planning to add either the J41 or the MD11 or both. As I think about them, I'm considering several things - their missions and how they fit into my flying style, setup time and how that fits into my time available for simming, and yes, also, how they'll perform on my system. So Ant's question makes good sense to me.But of course, your mileage may vary. Cheers!Alan Ampolsk

Thanks for the replies guys.I think I will go with the J41. Anything I lose in the poorer framerates over the MD11 hopefully I can pick up by flying to less framerate hungry regional airports.PS.Thanks Alan for watching my back there. I usually just try to ignore the negative nellies :( .Anthony Lynch

De nada.Am still getting plenty of hours in the Sierra - continued thanks for that.Alan Ampolsk

Haven't asked for a DNA sample, though, if that's what you mean.

:( Jean-Paul Mes