September 14, 201114 yr What does the short field package actually do to the performance of the aircraft? Tried it several times but i am not sure what i should be looking for? I am currently on a Round the World expedition with my NGX and will be needing some short field help in the coming legs. Any ideas? My RTW journey is about 95 legs in total. Donald Duck
September 14, 201114 yr sign posts with your full name please sir/madam Bryan Richards "People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.
September 14, 201114 yr Author What does the short field package actually do to the performance of the aircraft? Tried it several times but i am not sure what i should be looking for? I am currently on a Round the World expedition with my NGX and will be needing some short field help in the coming legs. Any ideas? My RTW journey is about 95 legs in total. Ben Morton (better now) Donald Duck
September 14, 201114 yr Also, there is a very cool search function. I found at least 2 threats called "short field package" Andreas
September 14, 201114 yr http://www.b737.org.uk/flightcontrols.htm#Short-field_Performance_Enhancement_Program Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
September 14, 201114 yr Beside the fact that you two characters is playing sheriff, instead of helping the guy, I'm going to give him some information... SFPs characteristics are described in the documentation provided by PMDG together with the software, please refer to that for complete list of modifications. 737-800SFP is intended to be able to land/takeoff in extremely short runways. The shortest runway that a 737 can operate in the world is my home airport: SBRJ. Another good (a little longer than SBRJ) short runway is SBSP. You'll be pleased to land on both, but be patient if you make 3 or 4 missed approaches on SBRJ. It's hard to land there without practice. Gabriel
September 15, 201114 yr Gabriel I been meaning to ask you. Whats the Max Takeoff Weight for 737-800s at SBRJ? Paul Deemer
September 15, 201114 yr Beside the fact that you two characters is playing sheriff, instead of helping the guy, I'm going to give him some information... SFPs characteristics are described in the documentation provided by PMDG together with the software, please refer to that for complete list of modifications. 737-800SFP is intended to be able to land/takeoff in extremely short runways. The shortest runway that a 737 can operate in the world is my home airport: SBRJ. Another good (a little longer than SBRJ) short runway is SBSP. You'll be pleased to land on both, but be patient if you make 3 or 4 missed approaches on SBRJ. It's hard to land there without practice. Playing "sheriff" or just letting a first time poster know the rules here. Or better just just following rules; really the only rule here! *Cough* Witch doesn't even seam your following the FULL par of that rule. I guess rules are meant to be broken by most, nothing new there. -Raven HarrisIntel i7 980X @ 4.43GHz | ASUS Rampage III | Corsair 6GB DDR3 2000MHz | 3 EVGA GTX280 | Corsair 1200 Watt | Intel 510 SSD (RAID 0)PMDG - 747-400/8iF | MD11/F | BAe J41 | 737NG 6/7/8/9 Hope ER/BBJ|777LR/FFlight1- Cessna Mustang
September 15, 201114 yr Gabriel I been meaning to ask you. Whats the Max Takeoff Weight for 737-800s at SBRJ?That SHOULD NOT be above 68.000 kg for DRY operation (way below the MTOW), but you have to observe some restrictions: - No aircraft operates there with full tank. Most of time, it's around 20% to 40%.- ALWAYS must be selected 27K BUMP T/O Thrust.- MAXIMUM of 44ºC for Assumed T/O Temp- "Rolling Takeoff" is not allowed.- Flaps 15º or 25º is allowed but 15º has the best performance, especially after takeoff when you must climb immediately to the left to avoid the Sugar Loaf (1336 feet) ahead.- NO GO for tail winds above 5kt.- NO GO for RWYs 20R/02L. You must T/O and Land on RWYs 20L/02R. For T/O on WET conditions, it should be, if I can remember, 64 MT. But the real number must be within 2 MT +/-. For LANDING, you must not be above 58,2 MT for both DRY/WET and must set the AutoBrake MAX, and the temperature must not be above 40ºC. Just ask me if you have any other doubt! I'd be glad to help you. Playing "sheriff" or just letting a first time poster know the rules here. Or better just just following rules; really the only rule here! *Cough* Witch doesn't even seam your following the FULL par of that rule. I guess rules are meant to be broken by most, nothing new there. He had to agree with the rules prior to acess this forum. It's not your responsability. Gabriel
September 15, 201114 yr He had to agree with the rules prior to acess this forum. It's not your responsability. Look it is the only break these guys get from counting their paper clips .. .. Don't go ruining their fun, even if it is tedious in the extreme for everyone else. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
September 15, 201114 yr Rocky NGX and the paper clips !! I think the lead guitarist's name is Jimmy " short field package " Henderson. INDEED!!! hahahahaha Rocky NGX Sheriffs and the paper clips! Gabriel
September 15, 201114 yr Gabriel, Is all the information you provided on SFP on the PMDG documentation? Obrigado! That SHOULD NOT be above 68.000 kg for DRY operation (way below the MTOW), but you have to observe some restrictions: - No aircraft operates there with full tank. Most of time, it's around 20% to 40%.- ALWAYS must be selected 27K BUMP T/O Thrust.- MAXIMUM of 44ºC for Assumed T/O Temp- "Rolling Takeoff" is not allowed.- Flaps 15º or 25º is allowed but 15º has the best performance, especially after takeoff when you must climb immediately to the left to avoid the Sugar Loaf (1336 feet) ahead.- NO GO for tail winds above 5kt.- NO GO for RWYs 20R/02L. You must T/O and Land on RWYs 20L/02R. For T/O on WET conditions, it should be, if I can remember, 64 MT. But the real number must be within 2 MT +/-. For LANDING, you must not be above 58,2 MT for both DRY/WET and must set the AutoBrake MAX, and the temperature must not be above 40ºC. Just ask me if you have any other doubt! I'd be glad to help you. He had to agree with the rules prior to acess this forum. It's not your responsability. Edmundo Azevedo
September 15, 201114 yr I don't think there was a definitive answer to this in the other threads, but does the SFP reduce V speeds? Doesn't seem to in the sim, but does it in real life? Or is it "just" increased breaking efficency, higher spoiler angles, etc. Martin Wilby
September 15, 201114 yr Edmundo, these are airport specific conditions for a particular company. I don't think there was a definitive answer to this in the other threads, but does the SFP reduce V speeds? Doesn't seem to in the sim, but does it in real life? Or is it "just" increased breaking efficency, higher spoiler angles, etc. Martin Wilby SFP does not affect V speeds, but it reduces take off and landing distance, thus allowing higher weights to be used. David Zhong New video every Thursday: Aircraft Lighting - Boeing 777
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