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NGX, Simconnect and Aivlasofts EFB.

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Hi all For those of us who have the excellent EFB from www.aivlasoft.com we have identified a problem since the release of the PMDG NGX and that is connected with PMDG's use of simconnect. Simply put it would appear that the NGX floods simcconect with so much data that EFB can't display either online traffic or even ai aircraft. It can get so bad that simconnect will simply give up the ghost and disconnect from FSX resulting in a CTD. Are PMDG investigating this Issue. I know that Aivlasoft have been in touch with your developers but it would appear that no answer has been forthcoming. Wycliffe

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I have received the notice on my data provider saying that it received to many requests. But, I haven't noticed if AI is dropping off. I also haven't had any crashes.

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I have experienced a loss of AI using UT2. I've not had a crash, however, losing AI is new since flying the NGX. Bob

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Hi all For those of us who have the excellent EFB from www.aivlasoft.com we have identified a problem since the release of the PMDG NGX and that is connected with PMDG's use of simconnect. Simply put it would appear that the NGX floods simcconect with so much data that EFB can't display either online traffic or even ai aircraft. It can get so bad that simconnect will simply give up the ghost and disconnect from FSX resulting in a CTD. Are PMDG investigating this Issue. I know that Aivlasoft have been in touch with your developers but it would appear that no answer has been forthcoming. Wycliffe
When the PMDG 737 NGX was first released, I brought it to the developer's attention, that their plane was flooding Multiplayer & Simconnect. This unwelcome news was strongly reponded to by PMDG, so at least they answered and became aware of the issues. Hmmmph.gif The recent Hotfixes have gone some way to correct some of theses problems, and it is hoped that by SP1, they will have fully corrected these issues.dance.gif

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I stopped using the EFB trial because of this, and also because I'm not paying $90 USD when I can find all the charts I need online for free.As for the moving aircraft/show aircraft online, the radar function on FSINN takes care of that.I save $90.

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I stopped using the EFB trial because of this, and also because I'm not paying $90 USD when I can find all the charts I need online for free.As for the moving aircraft/show aircraft online, the radar function on FSINN takes care of that.I save $90.
EFB is a one-stop shop. I prefer the convenience.

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On another note, I had to turn off the REX weather engine because of the same issue. It was the only way to stop the simconnect CTDs with the NGX in use. Just a FYI for those with REX IF they run into this type of CTD.

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To all using EFB. Do you realize that it doesn't show the real world DA/DH?Don't get me wrong its a great product and i try it. But so much for real world approach procedures.

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DA/DH I hate abbreviations, these would be? Wycliffe
Decision Altitude / Decision Height
DA + Decision AltitudeDH + Decision Height They mean the same thing.
Nooooo. DA is altitude above sea level (i.e., MSL). DH is height above ground (i.e., AGL). Not the same thing, unless the airport happens to be at sea level. wink.png
To all using EFB. Do you realize that it doesn't show the real world DA/DH?Don't get me wrong its a great product and i try it. But so much for real world approach procedures.
Fixed with SP4, and I believe it only occurred with non-precision approaches. See http://www.aivlasoft...d/changelog.htm

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Fixed with SP4, and I believe it only occurred with non-precision approaches. See http://www.aivlasoft...d/changelog.htm
As i understood when i read the manual, they can't use the real world DA/DH because they are building the chart by reading the ACARS, and it happens the the ACARS doesn't have the DA/DH, so they choose the make all DH 200 for CAT I, 100 for CAT II and 50 for CAT III.Has this changed?

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As i understood when i read the manual, they can't use the real world DA/DH because they are building the chart by reading the ACARS, and it happens the the ACARS doesn't have the DA/DH, so they choose the make all DH 200 for CAT I, 100 for CAT II and 50 for CAT III.Has this changed?
Hmmm. Not sure. I'll have to check this out when I get home. I typically fly where the DH is 50, 100, 200, so I may not have noticed. I'll check Sucre later.

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EFB is a one-stop shop. I prefer the convenience.
I prefer approach charts that have altitude crossing restrictions published on the chart.EFB doesn't have that in a lot of their charts from my usage of the trial.

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I prefer approach charts that have altitude crossing restrictions published on the chart.EFB doesn't have that in a lot of their charts from my usage of the trial.
This is true. I find myself referring to the restrictions in the FMS because of this. Not a great practice, but sometimes I just prefer a quick and dirty flight, so it gets the job done.

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I prefer approach charts that have altitude crossing restrictions published on the chart.EFB doesn't have that in a lot of their charts from my usage of the trial.
Clearly you have an issue, and using paper is the route for you (no pun intended) but could you refrain from hijacking my thread. Wycliffe

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Clearly you have an issue, and using paper is the route for you (no pun intended) but could you refrain from hijacking my thread. Wycliffe
I talked about other things that EFB doesn't do when using it with the NGX, in a thread with EFB and NGX in it's title, and I'm hijacking your thread? I'm also not the only one having these issues, so clearly you're the one with issues.Also, if you want to sling criticism my way, at least sign your full name. Thanks.

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Why would anyone want to use EFB for the NGX ?? Everything you need is in the manuals and routes to fly can be found all over the web.It has a nice interface but that's about it. If you consider this hijacking your thread...............too bad ! LOL.gifWhistle.gifLoser.gifTalk%20to%20the%20Hand.gif
Hi, See my short youtube video and see how nice it is to have EFB running with NGX..
See the planee in red in the EFB view and how it tracks the glidescope and ILS on landing. It is very good for training etc. Roar Kristensen

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I wonder, i was flying the NGX with no issues, until i added the Mytraffic scenary, now my old CTD problem is back.

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I talked about other things that EFB doesn't do when using it with the NGX, in a thread with EFB and NGX in it's title, and I'm hijacking your thread? I'm also not the only one having these issues, so clearly you're the one with issues.Also, if you want to sling criticism my way, at least sign your full name. Thanks.
I consider the thread being hikacked as the OP was about the problems of using NGX and EFB and the associated simconnect flooding issue. I am more than happy to furnish you with my full name. Also my post was not a criticism against you just an observation based on your comments. Wycliffe Alan Barrett JnrVATUK3 Membership ManagerNow then getting back to my OP, has anyone who has installed SP4 noticed whether their AI or multiplayer traffic is now being depiceted in EFB. Wycliffe Barrett

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Interesting, these flooding not only causes problems for gamespy multiplayer but also ENB, disappearing traffic, etc. Probably these floodings causes IVAP client to crash as well?But ofc, it's Microsoft's fault, eh? ... Doh.gif

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I read all of the threads about the "EFB - no traffic" issue and my conclusion is that the problem comes from the NGX using all available simconnect "connexions". There is no more room for any other add-on that also uses simconnect. This is a bit annoying in the fact that I paid alot of money for EFB and want to keep using it. Not only because I paid alot of money for it but I use it alot with any plane. I agree that the NGX does not require it to fly correctly but once you have a EFB system and get used to it, it's a hard thing to let go of. It would be VERY nice if it would display the traffic like it does with all other add-ons. I no longer use any paper charts and loving every minute of it. Is it asking too much to be able to use both add-ons?...I dont think so. I cant wait for this issue to be fixed (either by PMDG or Aivlasoft, I dont realy care who fixes it first). I posted the problem here at first and got the cold shoulder saying I was in the wrong forum, posted it on the Aivlasoft forum, did not get a cold shoulder there (these guys are great with service) but got reffered to here. Who do we turn to now???? It would seem this issue is nobody's fault and nobody will be doing anything about it. It's quite disturbing. When I bought the NGX I certainly did not expect to have to let go of my other add-ons. I'm flying without any traffic until this is resolved. I find it takes away from the realism of the whole simming experience. No offence to anyone. It's just my personal opinion.

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And you are totally right, Chris.

Who do we turn to now????
Well, it seems PMDG is blaming microsoft for it. This is what I got as answer concerning the gamespy mutliplayer problem, but generally the same issue - simconnect floodings;
We have done all we can with this without compromising the functionality of the airplane - the fact of the matter is that it's always going to generate a lot of SimConnect event calls - it is Microsoft's fault that we don't have a way to filter these. They ALL get broadcast to everyone connected to the server while on a default FS Multiplayer session. There is nothing we can do about this and no further development time will be spent on this. Ryan MaziarzTechnical SupportPMDG Simulations, LLC.www.precisionmanuals.com
So try contacting microsoft with that issue maybe ;) It is highly probable that they will send you back here. Logically, if you see what/who triggers the issue...When will PMDG fix this issue finally? That's the big question. I don't wonder if the problems will increase if the SDK will be released for 3rd party software etc. I would rather prefer a 100% working a/c that I can flawlessly fly in multiplayer and use it together with my other payed software instead of an a/c with lots of bric-a-brac.

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