In the Tutorial it shows you how to setup for capturing the Glidescope. Both Nav Radios must be set, Both Courses Set and Runway selected in FMC along with GS set to On. That has always been how it was done since the NGX was released. So why are you expecting it to be any different now?

If it was always like this, it was always wrong. In the real thing you just have to set the frecuency and the courses.

If it was always like this, it was always wrong. In the real thing you just have to set the frecuency and the courses.

And your basing this on what data and which plane? They are all different. Just like a 747-400 has auto tuning and the NGX frequencies have to be set manually.

"So you are saying you can fly an ILS approach with the autopilot without setting up the ILS in the FMC? In that case, could you please try ESSA RNW26 as well when you have the time for it?"could you please try EHRD (default scenery) ILS RWY 24 as well ?"If you try a raw data approach (ie with no route data entered in the FMC, the button APP works (lights up) and the G/S can be captured ok. If you try the same approach with simply EGUM entered as the destination airport in the FMC, you get this problem, APP does not light when selected and the G/S is not armed"I'm going to try this EGUN ILS apch rwy 29 (cannot find EGUM)Without any PMDG reaction to this reproducible issue we should all make a ticket

Is it possible to actually capture a glidescope in the real 737-800 just by tuning to the correct frequency even if the ILS info is not in the FMC? If it can be done in the real world then yes I agree it should be accurately modeled in the NGX. If it can't be done then that is why it is not modeled.

No you cannot @GP only.Possible to shoot a LLZ only approach with or without other nav-aid based augmentation e.g. LLZ/DMERegards

And your basing this on what data and which plane? They are all different. Just like a 747-400 has auto tuning and the NGX frequencies have to be set manually.

I'm basing it on the FCOM for the 737NG.

Well I am suprised nobody from PMDG has said a word on this so I guess its not an issue they feel needs attention right now. But feel free to send a support ticket and ask them for an answer. I doubt it is going to change the facts though. In the mean time if I come across any runways that are not in the FMC which is rare then I will just do a visual landing. shrug.

In the Tutorial it shows you how to setup for capturing the Glidescope. Both Nav Radios must be set, Both Courses Set and Runway selected in FMC along with GS set to On. That has always been how it was done since the NGX was released. So why are you expecting it to be any different now?

That only needs to be done if you want to use autoland. Without autoland only one radio needs to be set.As far as the ILS, if it isnt in the FSX database, it ain't gonna work, regardless. This is one reason I dont bother to update Navgraph. I run FSCommander on a second computer and allways use it to check airport info against the FMC data. If the freqs are different, I tune the FSX one and it ALWAYS works.

In the mean time if I come across any runways that are not in the FMC which is rare then I will just do a visual landing. shrug.

Good luck with your visuals when the weather is CATII/III (typical @ESSA this time of the year)

Good luck with your visuals when the weather is CATII/III (typical @ESSA this time of the year)

That is not a problem. In the real world if the visibility was low and the ILS was not functioning you would divert to another airport. Same thing applys in the SIM. It's easy! I got over 150 FSX airports that either I bought, or updated the AFCADs from AVSIM. One little airport like Arlanda is not going to ruin my day.

Looking into this right now guys... I suspect it is a bug, we changed something for SP1 to match the real aircraft (GS ON/OFF flag only visible when an ILS is selected in the FMC) and I think this may have been an unintended consequence of doing that.

Looking into this right now guys... I suspect it is a bug, we changed something for SP1 to match the real aircraft (GS ON/OFF flag only visible when an ILS is selected in the FMC) and I think this may have been an unintended consequence of doing that.

at least ! good to know you're looking into this bug

Ok confirmed - putting it into our bug system right now...

Well I am suprised nobody from PMDG has said a word on this so I guess its not an issue they feel needs attention right now. But feel free to send a support ticket and ask them for an answer. I doubt it is going to change the facts though. In the mean time if I come across any runways that are not in the FMC which is rare then I will just do a visual landing. shrug.

I tried 2 airports, ESSA and EBBR. Both rwy's were in the ILS database since I could select them. Yes, also ESSA, I use the original PMDG database.When you select "a" ILS approach, the G/S will be captured. Without selecting "a" ILS approach in the FMC, the G/S is not captured, this on both airports.OR this is a correct behaviour (as a stated before, maybe something to do with integrated navigation option in FMC version above XXXXX). Then I wonder, no ILS approach when your FMC's are INOP?OR it's incorrect and thus a bug.Maybe someone from PMDG or a 737 pilot can explain?Bert Van Bulck

I tried 2 airports, ESSA and EBBR. Both rwy's were in the ILS database since I could select them. Yes, also ESSA, I use the original PMDG database.When you select "a" ILS approach, the G/S will be captured. Without selecting "a" ILS approach in the FMC, the G/S is not captured, this on both airports.OR this is a correct behaviour (as a stated before, maybe something to do with integrated navigation option in FMC version above XXXXX). Then I wonder, no ILS approach when your FMC's are INOP?OR it's incorrect and thus a bug.Maybe someone from PMDG or a 737 pilot can explain?Bert Van Bulck

Like Ryan said it is a bug and they will look into it.

KSAN Rwy 09 ILS has been fixed. Get the latest AFCAD by Ray Smith here: http://library.avsim...ftp&DLID=162976

Paul,Why do I get this feeling that you follow me around, anticipate my problems and questions even before I know what they are, and stand by with the ready answer? Anyhow, I appreciate your willingness to share your expertise in all things FSX and NGX.Dennis