Over on the FTX forums:http://www.orbxsyste...for-x-plane-10/Topic is already locked.

Niner1 summed it up correctly...

Obviously a touchy point over there, hence why it was closed.All I need is a capable 737NG and i'd stay in X-Plane 10.

Niner1 summed it up correctly...

Niner 1 just skipped a few items. Like the real reason X-Plane needs Orbx! Sloped runways alright, but just no airport buildings, etc. to go with them. IMO------- Orbx DOES put fun into flight simming. It's a real reason that I wouldn't drop FSX.L.Adamson

Niner 1 just skipped a few items. Like the real reason X-Plane needs Orbx! Sloped runways alright, but just no airport buildings, etc. to go with them. IMO------- Orbx DOES put fun into flight simming. It's a real reason that I wouldn't drop FSX.L.Adamson

There is no need to drop FSX. And no, XPX does not need Orbx, at all. XPX can stand on it's own two feet. They (Orbx) have a business to run and have made a business decision. I wish them well and continued success.

One interesting thing is that I did not realise anyone could download prepar3d for $10 and have it for a month so I am downloading it now as well.

Niner 1 just skipped a few items. Like the real reason X-Plane needs Orbx! Sloped runways alright, but just no airport buildings, etc. to go with them. IMO------- Orbx DOES put fun into flight simming. It's a real reason that I wouldn't drop FSX.L.Adamson

Speaking of sloped runways ... haven't heard people talking about how exaggerated the slope is on the sloped runways ..

There is no need to drop FSX. And no, XPX does not need Orbx, at all. XPX can stand on it's own two feet.

If X-Plane 10 wants to get to where ...........the competion is, then it needs all the top notch 3rd party additions, it can get. It's own two feet, won't get it any farther than previous editions.

Speaking of sloped runways ... haven't heard people talking about how exaggerated the slope is on the sloped runways ..

That's why it's a compromise at best. Some are terribly exaggerated, because the database can't contain enough elevation points.Would all have to be hand done, othersise.

If X-Plane 10 wants to get to where ...........the competion is, then it needs all the top notch 3rd party additions, it can get. It's own two feet, won't get it any farther than previous editions.

I agree .. XPX is getting tons of attention becuase its new .. but if the 3rd party development doesnt improve for XPX it will go the way to XP9.XPX is missing tons stillairports scenerypushbacksReal like AIquality cockpitsATCetcXPX needs 3rd party developers .. period!

ORBX will come around eventually. Especially when there sales start to diminish. If not somebody else will pick up the baton!I wont be buying anymore add-ons for FSX.It's like owning a suped up scooter and then buying a Harley, the scooters still fun to ride but why would you keep dumping money into it ?

One interesting thing is that I did not realise anyone could download prepar3d for $10 and have it for a month so I am downloading it now as well.

Its no different then FSX ? Save your money....

Everything I've read suggests that Prepar3D is essentially FSX Service Pack 3, and honestly, I can't see it getting enough serious attention to make it a lucrative product for add-on developers.

Regarding the pushback option, 3rd party has already solved this one - pulled from this forum:http://forum.avsim.net/topic/354857-x-plane-10-dem-pushback/page__p__2173943__hl__pushback__fromsearch__1#entry2173943

x-pushback already did not work perfectly in version 9. It was a plugin for version 8. Try these:very basic: http://forums.x-plan...s&showfile=1130better: http://forums.x-plan...&showfile=14790Some more recent payware planes came or come with their own solutions, like e.g. this one still in development:

I tried the "very basic" one - its set up so that you hit shift-f1 to start push-back, you use the rudder control to turn the aircraft and turn yourself. Shift-f1 stops the pushback.If you multi-push shift-f1, it should do different things like auto-taxi at speed (slow/fast) with definable speeds. Overall, with the personal directional control plus the pushback/stop option, it works for me as I need it to.

X Plane 10 is a ripe apple ready for the pickings. It may end up being Orbx's greatest lost potential money maker. X Plane sales is not to be dismissed, it has enough of a client base a developer could make serious coin with add on's. No one like Orbx stepped up to the plate for XP-9. The turn off for me with XP-9 was graphics, except the water. I love XP's water. XP-10's potential, with it new overhaul is endless. Just needs a company with Orbx like qualities to pump out the add on's and people will not only buy the stuff, but convert from FSX. All being equal, if XP-10 looked like FSX alot of serious FSX'ers would be jumping aboard. I am a XP-10 convert due to the flight model abilities, night beauty, and graphics potential. Out of the gait graphically, it is not Orbx visually, but that can soon change. XP-10 is a pearl to be made into jewelry. Austin cannot do it all by himself. Without Orbx, I would have never bothered with FSX. FSX is a three dressed up like a nine. It came out buggy, still is buggy, but a beauty to fly around in. I am really stoked about XP-10, especially with it's helicopters, flight models and 3d type renderings of buildings. If I could take areas and create bush camps, small air ports and add objects and jazz what's already there, that will satisfy me. Get 100 or so guys doing the same thing in focused areas in an organized way, the community could make some excellent modifications very quickly. Couple that with a company adding sceneries, you have some major mojo happening for XP-10. I think XP-10 will have a lot more synergy that XP-9 ever had. XP-9 did not get the recognition it truly deserves. Why? IMHO ... graphics. I find it ugly. Sorry if I offended anyone using XP-9, I am shallow. That's why I prefer FSX with Orbx, despite XP-9 being a far better flight sim operationally. If XP-9 looked like FSX, FSX would be a coaster on my desk. But... XP-10 is the stepping stone from FSX for me. Flying bush in a wooded wonderland is all I want to do, with as much realism a sim has to offer. I say in 1-2 years the awesomeness of XP-10 will not be able to be overlooked. It's core "engine" with a beautiful graphical facial cannot be dismissed. If Orbx, or any company for that matter was smart, they should assign a qualified graphics artist and start a work up for XP-10 ASAP. XP-10 is a diamond waiting to be placed on a ring. Time to step off my soap box.

Everything I've read suggests that Prepar3D is essentially FSX Service Pack 3, and honestly, I can't see it getting enough serious attention to make it a lucrative product for add-on developers.

I dont know what it is, to be honest I didn't really know it existed a few days ago. But for $10 to try it out I think it is worth it. I dont know where it will sit in the future but I found the comment that the orbx guy said potentially interesting, that they are porting and that some pricing will change. Thats not turned me off xplane in any way, I will keep seeing how I can make it work for me, I just like to see what else is about.

I dont know what it is, to be honest I didn't really know it existed a few days ago.

I wasn't being tongue in cheek. It really is just a slightly modified version of FSX at this point. Maybe Lockheed Martin will make some substantial changes in the future, but right now, it looks, runs, and operates almost exactly like FSX.