Sorry if this has been asked before, but, does anyone know if there are any I'll effects to using the fueling function in GSX to fuel the NGX? Maybe I'm mistaken, but doesn't PMDG recommend only using the CDU to refuel the NGX for specific weight and balance issues?ThanksSent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB

I believe (because, from what I understand, PMDG completely revamped FSX's fuels calculations) that if you do not use the CDU for fuel the realism is greatly reduced (at the very least).

Edited February 1, 201214 yr by W1ll

I believe (because, from what I understand, PMDG completely revamped FSX's fuels calculations) that if you do not use the CDU for fuel the realism is greatly reduced (at the very least).

So your saying that we might lose some NGX functionality if we fuel the tanks with the default FSX fueling window? (which is what GSX uses)Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB

So your saying that we might lose some NGX functionality if we fuel the tanks with the default FSX fueling window? (which is what GSX uses)Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB

Will is right!Why would you even think about that? What would be the point, destroying an advanced ac?/ Leffe

Will is right!Why would you even think about that? What would be the point, destroying an advanced ac?/ Leffe

I would think about that because I don't know, hence the reason I asked the question.Lol, destroying an aircraft? Why would I ask the question? Because if you cancel the fueling through GSX by not fueling through the default FSX menu, then the fuel truck does not complete it's animation.Question.....What would happen if you use the default fsx fueling window? Wrong CG? Wrong fuel burn? Anyone know?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB

/Question.....What would happen if you use the default fsx fueling window? Wrong CG? Wrong fuel burn?Anyone know?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB

Yes every thing you mention there, would be wrong in the NGX. PMDG have also been said numerous time, thatnever use an external fuel calculator or FSX inbuilt one./ Leffe

What would happen if you let GSX fill it up the default way to get the animation, but then after it's complete, you set the proper fuel you want using the PMDG FMC? Would the FMC override anything GSX did so there would not be any problems?

I would think about that because I don't know, hence the reason I asked the question.Lol, destroying an aircraft? Why would I ask the question? Because if you cancel the fueling through GSX by not fueling through the default FSX menu, then the fuel truck does not complete it's animation.Question.....What would happen if you use the default fsx fueling window? Wrong CG? Wrong fuel burn?Anyone know?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJB

Hey Jack Im using the gsx demo right now and was wondering the same thing, for now I think I will just not use the fuel truck, and even for my other pmdg aircraft aswell as the LDS 767 I would prefer to use the load manager or topcat for loading fuel, I wonder if there is away to call the fuel truck and just watch him do his thing without the fuel window coming up..

On all aircraft in GSX, the fuel truck simply drives up to the plane and opens up the FSX refueling window. At this point you have the option to enter a fuel amount and 'load the fuel', or you can simply press CANCEL on the refueling window, and it will close (making no changes to the current fuel loads). With complex aircraft like the NGX, this is what i've been doing with GSX. Although the fuel truck isn't 'theoretically' loading any fuel onto it, you still get to see the fancy GSX fuel truck drive up to your NGX and position itself to load the fuel. When GSX opens the refueling window and you select CANCEL, the truck sits there for about 2 seconds before driving off, so in that short time you could enter the fuel load into the NGX CDU to simulate the fuel loading while the truck is there. It's better than nothing, and adds a small amount of realism i suppose.

My understanding is the problem is not with the external fuel loaders, the problem is how you use them. If you dont undestand the correct way to load fuel or if they dont have an option to select which tanks get fuel first you will have problems with the aircrafts fuel system logic.For example if you use the default FSX fuel loader it will probably just randomly add fuel to each tank in the wrong order. Correct order on most types is outer tanks first center tank last, if you choose the order yourself then it will work..I use an external fuel loader running of a networked PC for all my complex add-ons and it works fine because I have it configured to pump fuel in the correct order.I am pretty sure PMDG say do not use an external loader because if you dont know what you are doing you can mess things up. That doesn't mean it wont work if done correctly.Ryan please correct me if I am wrong, but I have never had any issues in the past.Regards

On all aircraft in GSX, the fuel truck simply drives up to the plane and opens up the FSX refueling window. At this point you have the option to enter a fuel amount and 'load the fuel', or you can simply press CANCEL on the refueling window, and it will close (making no changes to the current fuel loads).With complex aircraft like the NGX, this is what i've been doing with GSX. Although the fuel truck isn't 'theoretically' loading any fuel onto it, you still get to see the fancy GSX fuel truck drive up to your NGX and position itself to load the fuel. When GSX opens the refueling window and you select CANCEL, the truck sits there for about 2 seconds before driving off, so in that short time you could enter the fuel load into the NGX CDU to simulate the fuel loading while the truck is there.It's better than nothing, and adds a small amount of realism i suppose.

you beat me to the answer yea just cancel the request when the fuel truck arrives

My understanding is the problem is not with the external fuel loaders, the problem is how you use them. If you dont undestand the correct way to load fuel or if they dont have an option to select which tanks get fuel first you will have problems with the aircrafts fuel system logic.For example if you use the default FSX fuel loader it will probably just randomly add fuel to each tank in the wrong order. Correct order on most types is outer tanks first center tank last, if you choose the order yourself then it will work..I use an external fuel loader running of a networked PC for all my complex add-ons and it works fine because I have it configured to pump fuel in the correct order.I am pretty sure PMDG say do not use an external loader because if you dont know what you are doing you can mess things up. That doesn't mean it wont work if done correctly.Ryan please correct me if I am wrong, but I have never had any issues in the past.Regards

Very interesting post thanks for all your info.Maybe we can do some tests. And figure out what could be affected by using the default FSX fuel window if anything. Maybe we can also fuel the aircraft correctly, thus minimizing any NGX logic errors?I can understand completely that loading payload without using the CDU would cause problems, but loading fuel should be a no brainer.I would try it out now, but I still have a bit of work to do..JB

What's the external fuel loader networked that you use Buz? Cheers Wayne.

Make the changes via the popup FSX menu and then correct with the NGX CDU menu, like Dave said. I've been doing that, and it works just fine. Come on, guys. Just try it and test for yourselves.By the way, loading fuel via the FSX menu is okay.

Edited February 2, 201214 yr by ZachLW

What's the external fuel loader networked that you use Buz? Cheers Wayne.

Im not using a fuel loader.JB

Make the changes via the popup FSX menu and then correct with the NGX CDU menu, like Dave said. I've been doing that, and it works just fine. Come on, guys. Just try it and test for yourselves.By the way, loading fuel via the FSX menu is okay.

Excellent Zach and Dave..I will give it a try when I get a chance.ThanksJB