Can anyone tell me how the ifly 737 compares to the pmdg 737 (fsx) in terms of detail. I am looking to install Brian Yorks FS2 Crew on the pmdg but am tired of waiting for the SDK to be released so I am considering purchasing the ifly and would like to know how they compare. Anyone's help is very appreciated. Thanks.

Do a search, it's been beaten to death.

Yeah. Read quite a few of those but they are somewhat dated. Didn't know if ifly had recently released patches or updates to make they're version more realistic. I say this because the majority of the forums give the realism prize to PMDG. But thanks for your time.

Can anyone tell me how the ifly 737 compares to the pmdg 737 (fsx) in terms of detail

I'll try to be a bit more helpful than the other poster...I own both the iFly and the PMDG. The iFly package is a really great value. You get all the variants and paints, plus all the systems are modeled very well. The flight dynamics seem to be pretty spot on, and the developers are known for the great support. Really it's an excellent value considering all you get for the price.About the PMDG 737. I've used this analogy before (I know it's silly, but it holds truth) and hopefully this makes sense.... There are many places to get a steak for dinner. You can go to a diner like Denny's and get a steak for a few dollars. It will be okay, maybe a little tough or dry but nonetheless is a steak. Or you can go to a place like Morton's and get an aged piece of meat that was hand trimmed and cooked by a chef. Guess which one is going to be better.... The PMDG is a Morton's steak. The models, visuals, sounds, systems and the feeling of really "being there" are unmatched. Its all the attention to detail that really puts this package in a league of its own.If you are a casual flyer, then go with the iFly because you are going to get all the variants. But if you want all the details, the PMDG is so worth it.

I have both products and they are both great products. There's honestly not very much different in them. PMDG has a bit more "looks" into it with more detail graphics. I-Fly has better sound and better fps among other things. Yes, this has been discussed in this forum many many times. Some will bleed to death saying that there's nothing like the PMDG. Others will take a sincere approach (like myself), and accept that there are other great products out there such as the I-Fly 737...Trust me "IT IS a worthy competitor to the PMDG 737", and considering how good PMDG is, this is a bold and accurate statement!--- The PMDG has a bit more of detail such as a serial number on the windshield or fingerprints and smudge on the PFD, eg...Some would consider this an "OMG I'm getting a heart attack," others would simply say: "hmm it's ok; it looks nice...but when I'm flying I rather look at my instruments clearly and not worried so much about making sure the serial number is still on the windshield, or let me stop at this airport and check if the rivets are still on the back end of the fuselage." :( I know, I'm being a bit funny on saying this; however, despite the fact that the PMDG is more detailed in graphics, the I-Fly is very, very, close to it in all aspects.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by Johnny767

I'll try to be a bit more helpful than the other poster...I own both the iFly and the PMDG. The iFly package is a really great value. You get all the variants and paints, plus all the systems are modeled very well. The flight dynamics seem to be pretty spot on, and the developers are known for the great support. Really it's an excellent value considering all you get for the price.About the PMDG 737. I've used this analogy before (I know it's silly, but it holds truth) and hopefully this makes sense.... There are many places to get a steak for dinner. You can go to a diner like Denny's and get a steak for a few dollars. It will be okay, maybe a little tough or dry but nonetheless is a steak. Or you can go to a place like Morton's and get an aged piece of meat that was hand trimmed and cooked by a chef. Guess which one is going to be better.... The PMDG is a Morton's steak. The models, visuals, sounds, systems and the feeling of really "being there" are unmatched. Its all the attention to detail that really puts this package in a league of its own.If you are a casual flyer, then go with the iFly because you are going to get all the variants. But if you want all the details, the PMDG is so worth it.

I'll try to be a bit more helpful than the other poster...I own both the iFly and the PMDG. The iFly package is a really great value. You get all the variants and paints, plus all the systems are modeled very well. The flight dynamics seem to be pretty spot on, and the developers are known for the great support. Really it's an excellent value considering all you get for the price.About the PMDG 737. I've used this analogy before (I know it's silly, but it holds truth) and hopefully this makes sense....There are many places to get a steak for dinner. You can go to a diner like Denny's and get a steak for a few dollars. It will be okay, maybe a little tough or dry but nonetheless is a steak. Or you can go to a place like Morton's and get an aged piece of meat that was hand trimmed and cooked by a chef. Guess which one is going to be better....The PMDG is a Morton's steak. The models, visuals, sounds, systems and the feeling of really "being there" are unmatched. Its all the attention to detail that really puts this package in a league of its own.If you are a casual flyer, then go with the iFly because you are going to get all the variants. But if you want all the details, the PMDG is so worth it.

I understand your analogy about the different steaks; however, I have to disagree with you to a large extend. The I-FLY is as good as the PMDG. In fact, there are a few things in which the I-Fly is better. I wouldn't say that theI-Fly is for casual flying...I would more leave this kind of comment for the default FSX 737. The problem I have noticed is that some folks are so devoted to a "particular" developer that they fail to see beyond their nose- or forehead; and see all the great things another developer has created! I would use the "steak" analogy in comparing a 737 vs a Cessna 172. If I had to use your steak analogy in comparing the PMDG and the I-Fly 737, I would put it this way: "The PMDG and the I-Fly 737s are both Mortons steaks; however, the PMDG has a bit more of gravy and is a few oz larger..and if you were to close your eyes and taste both, you really couldn't tell any difference.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by Johnny767

I have both products and they are both great products. There's honestly not very much different in them. PMDG has a bit more "looks" into it with more detail graphics. I-Fly has better sound and better fps among other things. Yes, this has been discussed in this forum many many times. Some will bleed to death saying that there's nothing like the PMDG. Others will take a sincere approach (like myself), and accept that there are other great products out there such as the I-Fly 737...Trust me "IT IS a worthy competitor to the PMDG 737", and considering how good PMDG is, this is a bold and accurate statement!--- The PMDG has a bit more of detail such as a serial number on the windshield or fingerprints and smudge on the PFD, eg...Some would consider this an "OMG I'm getting a heart attack," others would simply say: "hmm it's ok; it looks nice...but when I'm flying I rather look at my instruments clearly and not worried su much about making sure the serail number is still on the windsheild, or let me stop at this airport and see if the rivets are still on the back end of the fuselage." :( I know, I'm being a bit funny on saying this; however, dispite the fact that the PMDG is more detailed in graphics, the I-Fly is very, very, close to it in all aspects.

I know you're being tongue in cheek, but instrumentation is also clearer in the NGX. Why would you want compromises? Especially when the iFly performs worse than the NGX as far as FPS are concerned?I'm sorry, but the quality difference is apparent. I liked the iFly when I flew it before the NGX but now I would never go back to it. The NGX is the go to if you're running FSX and want the best. As said before you: Sound, visuals, systems, usability, and flight dynamics are all superior in the NGX. Again, unless you're stuck with FS9, go with the NGX. If you can afford both buy both and support iFly because they still have a quality add on.

I understand your analogy about the different steaks; however, I have to disagree with you to a large extend. The I-FLY is as good as the PMDG. In fact, there are a few things in which the I-Fly is better. I wouldn't say that theI-Fly is for casual flying...I would more leave this kind of comment for the default FSX 737. The problem I have noticed is that some folks are so devoted to a "particular" developer that they fail to see beyond their nose- or forehead; and see all the great things another developer has created! I would use the "steak" analogy in comparing a 737 vs a Cessna 172. If I had to use your steak analogy in comparing the PMDG and the I-Fly 737, I would put it this way: "The PMDG and the I-Fly 737s are both Mortons steaks; however, the PMDG has a bit more of gravy and is a few oz larger..and if you were to close your eyes and taste both, you really couldn't tell any difference.

Things are simulated in the NGX that the iFly doesn't touch. Besides different engine variants, the NGX has way more options and simulates them all much better. Down to voltages used by each and every system.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by ZachLW

I know you're being tongue in cheek, but instrumentation is also clearer in the NGX. Why would you want compromises? Especially when the iFly performs worse than the NGX as far as FPS are concerned?I'm sorry, but the quality difference is apparent. I liked the iFly when I flew it before the NGX but now I would never go back to it. The NGX is the go to if you're running FSX and want the best. As said before you: Sound, visuals, systems, usability, and flight dynamics are all superior in the NGX. Again, unless you're stuck with FS9, go with the NGX. If you can afford both buy both and support iFly because they still have a quality add on.Things are simulated in the NGX that the iFly doesn't touch. Besides different engine variants, the NGX has way more options and simulates them all much better. Down to voltages used by each and every system.

Oh, ok..I did not know you could check the voltage on the 737. The next time I lfy I'll make sure I check the votage capacity, and the electircal systems.

I know you're being tongue in cheek, but instrumentation is also clearer in the NGX. Why would you want compromises? Especially when the iFly performs worse than the NGX as far as FPS are concerned?I'm sorry, but the quality difference is apparent. I liked the iFly when I flew it before the NGX but now I would never go back to it. The NGX is the go to if you're running FSX and want the best. As said before you: Sound, visuals, systems, usability, and flight dynamics are all superior in the NGX. Again, unless you're stuck with FS9, go with the NGX. If you can afford both buy both and support iFly because they still have a quality add on.Things are simulated in the NGX that the iFly doesn't touch. Besides different engine variants, the NGX has way more options and simulates them all much better. Down to voltages used by each and every system.

can you please give some examples what things are simulated which don't exist in iFly? I'm a fs9ers, I know little bout NGX but i own ifly ng in my fs9. thanx

Thanks everyone for the replies and opinions. I am considering the ifly only because PMDG hasn't released the SDK for the NGX. I own the NGX and virtually all of PMDG's other aircraft. They DO make a great product. But I utilize FS2 Crew voice as much as possible and without the repeatedly delayed SDK there is no voice version for the NGX. I may just try out the ifly and if I'm not pleased I believe flight 1 had a 30 money back guarantee. Thanks again.

I have both products and they are both great products. There's honestly not very much different in them. PMDG has a bit more "looks" into it with more detail graphics. I-Fly has better sound and better fps among other things. Yes, this has been discussed in this forum many many times. Some will bleed to death saying that there's nothing like the PMDG. Others will take a sincere approach (like myself), and accept that there are other great products out there such as the I-Fly 737...Trust me "IT IS a worthy competitor to the PMDG 737", and considering how good PMDG is, this is a bold and accurate statement!--- The PMDG has a bit more of detail such as a serial number on the windshield or fingerprints and smudge on the PFD, eg...Some would consider this an "OMG I'm getting a heart attack," others would simply say: "hmm it's ok; it looks nice...but when I'm flying I rather look at my instruments clearly and not worried so much about making sure the serial number is still on the windshield, or let me stop at this airport and check if the rivets are still on the back end of the fuselage." :( I know, I'm being a bit funny on saying this; however, despite the fact that the PMDG is more detailed in graphics, the I-Fly is very, very, close to it in all aspects.

It is good to see you like the ifly so much.I have the feeling tho that even if your approach is "sincere" the fact that you consider the two planes close or similar is more of an urban legend and wishful thinking.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by MindYerBeak

can you please give some examples what things are simulated which don't exist in iFly? I'm a fs9ers, I know little bout NGX but i own ifly ng in my fs9. thanx

How many examples would you like?--NGX features the iFly doesn't have--

• Realistic zone heating/cooling affected by environment including the doors being open or closed.
• Fully and utterly impressive electrical system that loads ("stacks") amps realistically.
• Collimated HUD.
• Better representation of the pneumatics including "abnormal" (well, I consider it abnormal) procedures like realistic cross-bleed starts.
• High resolution virtual cockpit
• Simulation of "wear and tear" including "domino" failures like overheated brakes causing a fire alarm if the gear are retracted while still too hot
• Little details like the sound of the nose-wheel scrubber if the nose wheel is still spinning.
• IRS takes different amounts of time to align depending on latitude.
• The control-wheel-steering mode is superior in the NGX. It's fun to play with! It is exactly like the real thing (level-D sim time in an NG simulator)
• Little gremlins the real NG suffers from. Sometimes when pushing the throttles forward in the -800 quickly, I'll get a master caution for the over-wing exits. This is a known "bug" in the real NG.
• Zone temp warnings on hot days (refer to the first in this list)
• etc
• etc

I could keep going, but the above are all I have off the top of my head from my laptop at 11PM. The point is that everything is much more refined in the NGX, and many things the iFly doesn't touch.

Thanks everyone for the replies and opinions. I am considering the ifly only because PMDG hasn't released the SDK for the NGX. I own the NGX and virtually all of PMDG's other aircraft. They DO make a great product. But I utilize FS2 Crew voice as much as possible and without the repeatedly delayed SDK there is no voice version for the NGX. I may just try out the ifly and if I'm not pleased I believe flight 1 had a 30 money back guarantee. Thanks again.

The SDK is close. As evident by Robert's post. Get both or you'll regret it.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by ZachLW

EasyE, and you didn't find that constant 'mine is better!' with the search feature? I own both, I run both and I like both. The obvious facts and features about them did not change since the last fan wars. ^_^The iFly comes with a 30 day money back policy, so you can make up your mind. FS2Crew is a treat on that plane as it's well integrated. The NGX is able to run voiced via MCE. I'm using that one and can't complain at all. If the SDK finally arrives, a lot of people will be very happy though, especially PMDG itself I guess.

Realistic zone heating/cooling affected by environment including the doors being open or closed.Fully and utterly impressive electrical system that loads ("stacks") amps realistically.Collimated HUD.Better representation of the pneumatics including "abnormal" (well, I consider it abnormal) procedures like realistic cross-bleed starts.High resolution virtual cockpitSimulation of "wear and tear" including "domino" failures like overheated brakes causing a fire alarm if the gear are retracted while still too hotLittle details like the sound of the nose-wheel scrubber if the nose wheel is still spinning.IRS takes different amounts of time depending on latitude.The control-wheel-steering mode is superior in the NGX. It's fun to play with! It is exactly like the real thing (level-D sim time in an NG simulator)Little grimlings the real NG suffers from. Sometimes when pushing the throttles forward in the -800 quickly, I'll get a master caution for the over-wing exits. This is a known "bug" in the real NG.Zone temp warnings on hot days (refer to the first in this list)

Who cares. Start it fly it land it.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by Barnstormer1