Who cares. Start it fly it land it.

Maybe the person asking cares? If you don't like hardcore simming, or don't care, get out of this thread. The title is "ifly vs pmdg 737". 134 posts and counting and not anything helpful, interesting, or nice since.

Who cares. Start it fly it land it.

DUH

Point being. Certain individuals do not have the ability to find anything good about anything unless it has PMDG written all over it! I believe that is referred to as ######. There is good in everything just as there is bad!!

Bah forget it. I'm being trolled.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by ZachLW

Really didn't intend to start a pi**ing contest. Just wanted some definitive feedback. Between the reviews and the HELPFUL replies on this thread I can make a positive decision. Personally, for me, the more real it is, the better. With the amount of addon scenery I have, the payware airports, the massive system upgrade I just had done and the time I spend flying, the more immersive the simulation is the more enjoyable. So 2D windows, missing rivets, lack of sun reflection, etc. DO make a difference. At least to me.

I have both, both are excellant, I spend 99% of my flying in the Quality Wings 757 :-)

Really didn't intend to start a pi**ing contest. Just wanted some definitive feedback. Between the reviews and the HELPFUL replies on this thread I can make a positive decision. Personally, for me, the more real it is, the better. With the amount of addon scenery I have, the payware airports, the massive system upgrade I just had done and the time I spend flying, the more immersive the simulation is the more enjoyable. So 2D windows, missing rivets, lack of sun reflection, etc. DO make a difference. At least to me.

I share that idea. That's why even though the iFly package is a great deal and a great package, the NGX is for me.The fact is that I spent $70 on the -800/-900 "base" model and another $24 on the -600/700. For $55 the iFly comes with all variants including the BBJs! So for a budget, the iFly is the winner.

The fact is that I spent $70 on the -800/-900 "base" model and another $24 on the -600/700. For $55 the iFly comes with all variants including the BBJs! So for a budget, the iFly is the winner.

Thing is that beauty and value is in the "eye of the beholder".Depending on the budget you could also call "abacus" planes value or winners.

I share that idea. That's why even though the iFly package is a great deal and a great package, the NGX is for me.The fact is that I spent $70 on the -800/-900 "base" model and another $24 on the -600/700. For $55 the iFly comes with all variants including the BBJs! So for a budget, the iFly is the winner.

I can relate. I have the base package and the 600/700 extension myself. A budget is not really a concern, I just wanted to know how they stack up against one another. But once you've put such a huge amount of work, time and finances into the SIM it would be redundant to put an aircraft into it that doesn't meet those higher standards of realism.

I understand your analogy about the different steaks; however, I have to disagree with you to a large extend. The I-FLY is as good as the PMDG. In fact, there are a few things in which the I-Fly is better. I wouldn't say that theI-Fly is for casual flying...I would more leave this kind of comment for the default FSX 737. The problem I have noticed is that some folks are so devoted to a "particular" developer that they fail to see beyond their nose- or forehead; and see all the great things another developer has created! I would use the "steak" analogy in comparing a 737 vs a Cessna 172. If I had to use your steak analogy in comparing the PMDG and the I-Fly 737, I would put it this way: "The PMDG and the I-Fly 737s are both Mortons steaks; however, the PMDG has a bit more of gravy and is a few oz larger..and if you were to close your eyes and taste both, you really couldn't tell any difference.

Some of this post is not aimed at you, but at this topic in general.Sometimes I think people want to beleive they are equal or the IFLY is better, but I just don't see it. The I-fly is the upstart and underdog and for some reason PMDG has a bad rep as being arrogant and missing release dates and people get annoyed with the it's ready when it's ready attitude.BUT... Lets look at the facts. PMDG acts just like all other devs including IFLY, how long ago was that feature pack supposed to be out? I logged on a few times over at the I-fly forum and they give LESS info to the customer than PMDG does..All these dev's are about the same. PMDG,Ifly,FSlabs,level-d They all say it's ready when it's ready.. they all miss dates.. Up until the NGX I did not own a PMDG product, I don't do long haul so I was not interested in the 747 or md-11 and the j41 is not operated in the US anymore. I only simulate RWO on vatsim so that plane did not work for me. So I don't think I qualify as a PMDG ###### since I have not ran out and bought everything they make just because they made it. In fact I was a I-fly customer before I was a PMDG customer. You want to know when the last time I flew my I-fly 737August 4th........... I have very little free time to fly and when I use that time I want to fly the plane that I get the most satifaction from and right now that is the NGX. I can tell the diffecrence is the graphics. another difference is the HGS that is not there in the IFLY liners, even the BBJ's HGS is not in the same league as the PMDG.. systems are better on the PMDG, lighting is vastly superior on the PMDG. I fly VC only with track IR and ezdok and I had a lot of trouble with clickspots on the IFLY.. I don't have problems with the clickspots in the NGX... Maybe other users don't have problems with the IFLY vc clickspots but for me it was a major issue and I remember it being a issue on the forums. Another thing that really bugged me on the IFLY and I know it a small thing but it bugged me was how the backlighting for the gauges would turn themselfs on at dusk.. I could not turn it on myself I had to wait for FSX to decide when I needed the lighting. It was really anoying in certian lighting conditions when It would have been nice to be able to see.I have not been to the IFLY forum for a long time maybe they changed that now.With that said the IFLY is a better option for some... those would be the cockpit builders and 2d flyers. the 2d panels are very good on the IFLY and it has a 2d throttle. If your a 2d guy the NGX is kind of a waste for you, I guess the only advantage you would get with the PMDG would be the more sophiticated FMC such as being able to do IAN approaches and other systems

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by mikea76

How many examples would you like?--NGX features the iFly doesn't have--

• Realistic zone heating/cooling affected by environment including the doors being open or closed.
• Fully and utterly impressive electrical system that loads ("stacks") amps realistically.
• Collimated HUD.
• Better representation of the pneumatics including "abnormal" (well, I consider it abnormal) procedures like realistic cross-bleed starts.
• High resolution virtual cockpit
• Simulation of "wear and tear" including "domino" failures like overheated brakes causing a fire alarm if the gear are retracted while still too hot
• Little details like the sound of the nose-wheel scrubber if the nose wheel is still spinning.
• IRS takes different amounts of time to align depending on latitude.
• The control-wheel-steering mode is superior in the NGX. It's fun to play with! It is exactly like the real thing (level-D sim time in an NG simulator)
• Little gremlins the real NG suffers from. Sometimes when pushing the throttles forward in the -800 quickly, I'll get a master caution for the over-wing exits. This is a known "bug" in the real NG.
• Zone temp warnings on hot days (refer to the first in this list)
• etc
• etc

I could keep going, but the above are all I have off the top of my head from my laptop at 11PM. The point is that everything is much more refined in the NGX, and many things the iFly doesn't touch.

I can live without them (at least til I migrate to fsx)Thanx

I can live without them (at least til I migrate to fsx)Thanx

Yeah. I wouldn't recommend purchasing the NGX and running it until your PC can handle FSX with decent fluidity. The NGX was the cause for half of the flippin' forum upgrading their PCs and migrating over! If you haven't yet, you're probably better off sticking to the old sim until a new rig is feasible. And that is why I mentioned budget when comparing the NGX with the iFly.Long story short: If you can watch Youtube videos of the NGX and not feel like you're missing out, upgrading to it probably isn't something you should consider.

I can relate. I have the base package and the 600/700 extension myself. A budget is not really a concern, I just wanted to know how they stack up against one another. But once you've put such a huge amount of work, time and finances into the SIM it would be redundant to put an aircraft into it that doesn't meet those higher standards of realism.

I'm sure the iFly will get even better with the free feature pack coming up, but if you like the NGX and just miss FS2Crew, maybe waiting some more is the thing to do. As said, MCE already works with the NGX if you're up to voice control the plane.On the SDK, you surely saw the delays and explanations. I'm still waiting for the 'my dog ate the hard drive' one, but, more seriously, I really think that it will arrive sooner or later, no matter what. As said, if that's all that's missing, you may be able to wait some more.

I'm sure the iFly will get even better with the free feature pack coming up, but if you like the NGX and just miss FS2Crew, maybe waiting some more is the thing to do. As said, MCE already works with the NGX if you're up to voice control the plane.On the SDK, you surely saw the delays and explanations. I'm still waiting for the 'my dog ate the hard drive' one, but, more seriously, I really think that it will arrive sooner or later, no matter what. As said, if that's all that's missing, you may be able to wait some more.

I think it's ok for them to miss deadlines but I agree with you they really need to stop with the excuses.. Real or made up in my opinion it's not the way to handle it. Just say.. The (insert product people are drooling over here) is not coming out ont he date we promised and we will let you know when it's ready. That's what every other dev does.I think IFLY has done a better job of handling the feature pack delays. No promisses and no excuses.

Edited February 19, 201214 yr by mikea76

Who cares. Start it fly it land it.

Please don't be so abrasive towards the rest of the community. If this were the first post a new member read, they would be very discouraged I imagine.