February 27, 201214 yr After opening FSX, If I click on a `saved flight` it can take yp to 4 or 5 minutes before the small windows opens to show Loading activity and I wonder if this is caused by the large amount of scenery I have installed or could it be something else.Once the flight is loaded it runs just fine with good FPS.Appreciate your thoughts- guysThanksGeorge
February 27, 201214 yr The loading time can of course increase due to a larger amount of addons that are used in that saved flight, but I must admit 4 to 5 minutes are rather long. When the window showing the loading activity appears, is the loading process already started or does is start only then?
February 27, 201214 yr Commercial Member To load a flight can definately take some time depending on the addons you have, but if you are just saving a flight that should be almost instantaneous. Saving a flight should not take 4-5 minutes as you descibe. Intel i9-12900KF, Asus Prime Z690-A MB, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, (3) SK hynix M.2 SSD (2TB ea.), 16TB Seagate HDD, Gigabyte GeForce 5080 RTX, Corsair iCUE H70i AIO Liquid Cooler, UHD/Blu-ray Player/Burner (still have lots of CDs, DVDs!) Windows 10, (hold off for now on Win11), EVGA 1300W PSUNetgear 1Gbps modem & router, (3) 27" 1440 wrap-around displaysFull array of Bravo, Saitek and GoFlight hardware for the cockpit. Varjo and HP VR headsets for mixed reality.
February 27, 201214 yr Photographic scenery can take an age to load and a high lod_radius setting can also greatly increase loading times as can most addons to some degree.IAN Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)
February 27, 201214 yr Commercial Member I believe FSX reads ALL your scenery addons, everytime you startup, even if they are active or not. To prove that create a 'dummy' scenery area in your scenery.cfg that points to nowhere. Then activate it and see if FSX questions it, then 'deactivate it' and again see if FSX questions it.. One of the major slow downs is the amount of addon aircraft that you have installed.One way I have found in reducing the scenery loadtime is to use this nice program by Andrew Thorton. great support by Andrew BTWWhat does it do:1. Allows you to repair errors in scenery.cfg2. Allows grouping of scenery files (eg Europe, USA, etc)3. Allows very easy to change scenery priorties either individualy or by group.4. Allows you to active only the scenery that you want for you flight (ie just Europe)5. reduces loading timesThe link:http://sourceforge.n...sceditor/files/ Edited February 27, 201214 yr by alpha117 Clive Joy
February 27, 201214 yr If I click on a `saved flight` it can take yp to 4 or 5 minutes before the small windows opens to show Loading activity and I wonder if this is caused by the large amount of scenery I have installedYes. This is where an SSD speeds load times about 10x WRT a HDD.Cheers,- jahman.
February 27, 201214 yr I believe FSX reads ALL your scenery addons, everytime you startup, even if they are active or not.No, that is not true. FSX creates a database of active scenery that is sorted by lat/long, so that only scenery within the area of the viewport is opened and loaded. The main outlayer is for object libraries, which have global scope. Install procmon and monitor what files FSX is accessing while loading and you will see.It is true that FSX will go through gauge .gau or .dll files on startup. That isn't dependent on loading any saved flight though.scott s..
February 27, 201214 yr only scenery within the area of the viewport is opened and loaded.I wish!Even if I start my flight in some South Pacific atoll, FSX takes 12 minutes to start. This start time seems fairly fixed independent of location, so I would presume all scenery directories are being scanned.Also folks lucky to have SSDs for scenery report a 10x speed-up FSX load times, further supporting what seems like FSX scanning all scenery folders.Cheers,- jahman.
February 27, 201214 yr So I looked up the scenery numbering map, then unchecked those that did not apply to the Washington area (OrbX PNW / NRM)At the initial load it too 1:20 to the spinning aircraft, then 2.00 to "Ready to Start". I killed the session and restarted the pc, timing it again: To the spinning aircraft - .25 seconds: to "Ready to Start" - .50 seconds. Here's the map. The numbers across the top are the first pair in the scenery list, with the side being the last two numbers. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52676345/Scenery_Numbering%20Schema.xps i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
March 1, 201214 yr Author I believe FSX reads ALL your scenery addons, everytime you startup, even if they are active or not. To prove that create a 'dummy' scenery area in your scenery.cfg that points to nowhere. Then activate it and see if FSX questions it, then 'deactivate it' and again see if FSX questions it.. One of the major slow downs is the amount of addon aircraft that you have installed.One way I have found in reducing the scenery loadtime is to use this nice program by Andrew Thorton. great support by Andrew BTWWhat does it do:1. Allows you to repair errors in scenery.cfg2. Allows grouping of scenery files (eg Europe, USA, etc)3. Allows very easy to change scenery priorties either individualy or by group.4. Allows you to active only the scenery that you want for you flight (ie just Europe)5. reduces loading timesThe link:http://sourceforge.n...sceditor/files/ Thanks for this info - I have installed the scenery.cfg programme and it reduced my 4-5 minutes to less than 1 minuteCheersGeorge
March 1, 201214 yr One of my online friends suggested that he and another gentleman had experienced "issues" when applying groups which included the OrbX sceneries, so that might be something to keep in the back of one's mind.... :( Edited March 1, 201214 yr by Paul J i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
March 2, 201214 yr Out of curiosity, I loaded FSX with Procmon (and about a dozen other apps running) and started a free flight in the default C172 no weather at PKMJ. Took 31 secs on SSD. I then looked at the file access data for fsx in procmon, and here are the largest users in terms of bytes read (not sure if just opening a file or reading bytes has biggest impact though). I was surprised by Aerosoft antarctica X. Not sure what's going on there.Here are the biggest hogs:All in Mb readAntarcticaX 462sceneryworld 87scenerybase 34ORBX 34UMKK Khrabrovo 29sceneryglobal 18FSG World mesh 16City of Aarhus 15FSG Canada mesh 11for comparisonairplanesC172 7.6So there are a couple scenery areas which are the "bad actors" when it comes to reading file data.scott s.. Edited March 2, 201214 yr by scott967
March 2, 201214 yr Out of curiosity, I loaded FSX with Procmon (and about a dozen other apps running) and started a free flight in the default C172 no weather at PKMJ. Took 31 secs on SSD. I then looked at the file access data for fsx in procmon, and here are the largest users in terms of bytes read (not sure if just opening a file or reading bytes has biggest impact though). I was surprised by Aerosoft antarctica X. Not sure what's going on there.Here are the biggest hogs:All in Mb readAntarcticaX 462sceneryworld 87scenerybase 34ORBX 34UMKK Khrabrovo 29sceneryglobal 18FSG World mesh 16City of Aarhus 15FSG Canada mesh 11for comparisonairplanesC172 7.6So there are a couple scenery areas which are the "bad actors" when it comes to reading file data.scott s..Another one of those things that makes ya go "hmmmmm."Were your last or very recent flights in the vicinity of UMKK or Antarctica? Were those sceneries recently loaded? I think getting to the bottom of what's being loaded by default might make a tailored solution for improved loading (i.e. second-level disk cache, preemptive loading etc) possible. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 2, 201214 yr I believe FSX reads ALL your scenery addons, everytime you startup, even if they are active or not. To prove that create a 'dummy' scenery area in your scenery.cfg that points to nowhere. Then activate it and see if FSX questions it, then 'deactivate it' and again see if FSX questions it.. One of the major slow downs is the amount of addon aircraft that you have installed.One way I have found in reducing the scenery loadtime is to use this nice program by Andrew Thorton. great support by Andrew BTWWhat does it do:1. Allows you to repair errors in scenery.cfg2. Allows grouping of scenery files (eg Europe, USA, etc)3. Allows very easy to change scenery priorties either individualy or by group.4. Allows you to active only the scenery that you want for you flight (ie just Europe)5. reduces loading timesThe link:http://sourceforge.n...sceditor/files/ Dont use this program if you are running any ORBX scenery as it will cause issues as they both write to the same scenery cfg file CPU: Intel i9-11900K @5.2 / RAM: 64GB DDR4 3200 / GPU: 4080 16GB /
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