3) A plane with a NDB would have been a nice addition, at least one of the islands have NDS but not VOR's, so for instrument flight an airplane with both would be welcome.

I agree it would have been a nice touch. It's odd that the NDBs are present, but we are as of now unable to use them. I would suspect then that some future a/c DLC will include an ADF radio to make use of 'em at some point.

I'm starting to wonder if there are FSX people who think an autopilot is required to fly an ILS approach lol....

I'm not wondering....I know so!Too many 'button pushers' who have purchased the 737NGX (or similar) and decided that 'flying' is taking off and hitting the autopilot until after rollout at the landing field.

it actually does!

Yep. The switch on the lower left corner of the AP is labled "IN OP".. :Whistle:I just hope that when fixed, MS doesent try and SELL it as a DLC. That would be bad and will only re-enforce people's low expectation of the DLC system.

it actually does!

Yep. The switch on the lower left corner of the AP is labled "IN OP".. :Whistle:I just hope that when fixed, MS doesent try and SELL it as a DLC. That would be bad and will only re-enforce people's low expectation of the DLC system.

:Thinking:... That looks more like for the NAV/GPS switch...Here's is what I was referring to:http://www.sportys.c...op/product/9372

Too many 'button pushers' who have purchased the 737NGX (or similar) and decided that 'flying' is taking off and hitting the autopilot until after rollout at the landing field.

Where's the fun in that? :LMAO:

I dont know how attractive a round sticky note will look... But I agree that MS should CLEARLY lable the AP as INOP till they get it working.

I dont know how attractive a round sticky note will look...

I actually have used those to placard an instrument for practice (partial panel) and for real... attractiveness was never the concern... being ramped checked and subsequently violated by the FAA was... :wink:Anything will do... those were just handy dandy to keep in the flight bag. :Nerd:

But I agree that MS should CLEARLY lable the AP as INOP till they get it working.

Or pull it (like you see on the Porter)... on the same page with you.

I dont know how attractive a round sticky note will look... But I agree that MS should CLEARLY lable the AP as INOP till they get it working.

agreed +1

The majority of Ga aircraft I have flown have an autopilot of some kind. My planes had very nice ones- however I have to confess I never used them. I like to fly-to me George flying is not flying.

With the RV, I used the auto-pilot a lot, for most cross country flights. The RV isn't nearly as "sedate"...........as so many of GA airplanes are. Not only that, as "experimentals", the available A/Ps are high quality, solid state, light, and cheap in comparison to most certified auto-pilots. And in many cases, they out perform them too. Personally, in the old days of older Cessnas and Pipers, I never used the A/P either. Most were too old, and never worked well. My RV pitch A/P would easily hold altitude within +/- 10'. Something else to consider. When flying across our Class B airspace of 25 miles or so, the A/P is great for maintaining "precision" altitude directed by ATC..............while we scan for other aircraft, etc.

I'm starting to wonder if there are FSX people who think an autopilot is required to fly an ILS approach lol....

My experience reading posts on several flightsim forums has lead me to very strongly suspect that there is quite a number of people out there who don't realise that an ILS is just a system to provide you with information on your position relative to the correct approach path, and who don't realise that the ILS is quite distinct from the A/P approach hold mode.

So. Now that a game aircraft doesnt have an autopilot modeled. We who use one in FS2004/FSX don't know how to fly an airplane? poor excuse for missing features. By the way our companys Cessna 172 has a bendix autopilot and garmin 430 GPS!! You would think MS would at least offer a GPS! I wont pay for an aircraft no matter how "pretty" unless it has some advanced avionics. But considering the target market. Its no surprise there are no advanced avionics. They could be confusing.

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They probably will offer advanced aircraft, with all or most of the goodies us Long time simmers want, the hooks are there. (in the files).No pun intended, but I doubt you or me or most here know what the "target market is"

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One of the best flights ever....My wife and I flying to brunch, one hour flight time. Once out of Class B airspace, GPS was set direct to destination airport. Auto-pilots were flying the GPS route, altitude A/P was set.............as the mountains rolled underneath, and the XM radio was playing some of the louder 60's type music in our stereo headsets at full volume. Yes............sometimes it's just great to look out the window, see all those panoramic views, while the music's turned up. Makes you realize just how fun it could be! L.Adamson --- RV6A

Must be you Aussies must have an autopilot. Not my observation here for why it was stated.

well I DO work for a flight training academy who trains pilots from ab initio to commercial airline pilots and nothing in between, so it makes sense why i've always maintained/flown aircraft with an A/P.. And I suppose when Australia is as big as it is, stick flying can get a bit tiresome (some would argue that's hardly an excuse!)

well I DO work for a flight training academy who trains pilots from ab initio to commercial airline pilots and nothing in between, so it makes sense why i've always maintained/flown aircraft with an A/P..

Well see that experience is just totally opposite mine... and makes no sense to me... having gone thru Purdue University's Flight & Maintenance programs, worked for them in the Maint Hangar... (not a small program here in the U.S. e.g. Amelia Earhart once part of the Purdue Staff... her Lockheed purchased w/ Purdue Research funds... etc...). We just plain did not have autopilots in anything "small" (although the Duchess may have had one... of course the King Airs and Mitsubishi Diamond had). Hand flying in all situations thru Commercial/Instrument tickets was the de rigueur mode of operation. But don't get me wrong... I'd use one in a heartbeat.I must say, becoming proficient with an autopilot is insignificant when compared with the power of being able to hand-fly an aircraft thruout all phases and conditions of flight (sounding a little like Darth Vader here... it's getting very late). In other (not so whack) words... it's easy to learn and use the autopilot... not so with hand flying.Btw I hope you know (seems you did) I was totally joking with the Aussie / autopilot wise-crack. Standing by for the return ribbing.

I'm starting to wonder if there are FSX people who think an autopilot is required to fly an ILS approach lol....

-------------------------Mathijs Kok (Aerosoft), on 01 March 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:Not because it will not 'fly itself' but because it for sure gets closer to an arcade game if very serious features (and easy to implement) features are left out.Your simplifications do not really help the discussion. These people have bought an add-on and I think they got the right to expect a feature like radios or autopilot to functions. This is not about the free sim but about a paid add-on that would be totally unsellable if it was an FSX add-on.-------------------------------Ok I do not know the Maule and I have always failry flown jets with my autopilot even if I do not know the tricks but this does not help releasing a Maule without a feature like the A/P present in the reality as the Aerosoft CEO stated in my quoted sentence. I can also fly my PMDG 737 manually and land it manually as I usually do but this doesn't count towards the Maule missing feature.Have you ever seen a car game without the gear selector ?Ok you can play it but that's not the same thing also considering you pay for it.

Edited March 2, 201214 yr by Mark II