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With Sorrow I say (About 737)?

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Hello, DudesI'm so so sorrow and anxious that my B737 techniques aren't working despite of written lots of questions here in this forum. I use only mouse and key board but still I want to use FSX and this is my passion and I love avionics. My business is totally different from this but I love this profession as a game and without this I say I don't fell well.First I worked on CRJ 700 in FSX and after a lot of efforts I got success and CRJ 700 is now easiest air plane in the World which I can easily fly and land with only using key board and mouse.After this, I've started work on Boeing 737-800 (one of my favourites) and I've been working on this plane since last 1 month or over but I'm so sad that I'm unable to land this.Crj's procedure was very easy and this is what I did with CRJ 700.I made flight plane first and Suppose from TKPK to TNCM Airports. I then changed the flight path and changed the route as I draw a straight line towards TNCM for right landing there. I didn't ever used Heading, Course, MACH, Frequencies and so on. I went straight with GPS and before 3nm away from landing runway I just turned off AP and make Flaps full and make mouse as yoke and by doing this procedure by mouse and by full flaps I was successfully landed CRJ on runway.Now when I've come to B737, it has many many problems. Some people suggest me in this forum to practice on Cessna 172 first or use of joy stick but I don't want to adopt both options. Sorry for this. I simply want to land B737 just as I land the CRJ.This is what I've done so for landing 737.I make speed 200knots at 2000ft altitude and after taking off and turn AP ON. Air plane goes right direction and just before 14 nm away from landing runway I come in straight with runway and reduce speed to 180knots. If I slow it to 170knots then air plane easily gets crash. Means air plane doesn't work on 2000 to 2500ft altitude and 170knots speed for landing.After this I've also tried that when I've got aligned with the runway and I'm 10nm away from it, I turn ON full flaps by pressing F8 key then plane crashes too. Means gets over speed and too much altitude and so on.I've also tried that 10nm away from runway, I turn off auto pilot and Alt hold plus speed hold and turn flaps full by f8 and used mouse as yoke, this formula also doesn't work. Altitude + Speed both get so high.I've also tried that when I'm 10nm away from runway I just turn off Altitude Hold switch and don't turn off AP. Then Altitude gets high and plane goes over the runway.Tell me what I do. I'm doing brain storming. I'm anxious. You'll laugh at me how crazy am I.How can I reduce speed up to 150 knots for safe landing? How can I make safe altitude for safe landing?I've also noticed at 160knots, B737 comes down fast towards earth and crashes. If I some times by my mind land the plane at 180knots then plane starts to get jumping on runway and doesn't stop. So what I do? Please tell me tips. I need help desperately and I want to land B737 in every situation.Instead of buying new joy stick, I want to do all procedure with mouse and key board. Please get me tips and tricks. I would be grateful to you. If I can land CRJ 700 safely then why B737 not?Please help me.Regards,

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After reading that, all I can say is don't run before you can walk. Regards

Rob Prest

 

Wow..Im all for helping new comers...but you need to do some lessons or something, becuase from your post, you dont have a great deal of nowledge about flyin an aircraft...you have so many questions i dont know where to begin.Flaps come down in stages depending on speed...you dont go from flap 0 to full flap in 1 movment...you add flap as you slow down ( stay level, kill throttle),Someone correct these numbers because im guessing (dont fly 737 all that much)Speed : 200 knots, flaps 5...as flaps cause DRAG you will start to slow down even more untill you reach say, 195knots, flaps 15...More drag, plane slow more to 177 knots, flaps 25 and so on...not 0 - 30 in 1 move, that why you get lift and go to high.or get a ''crash''.as you have overstressed the flaps.When you reach your landing speed, increase thottle to hold speed.By not buying a joystick of some kind your maikng it harder on yourself to learn anything.

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Luke M

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Yes, you should fly Microsoft FLIGHT! ....mainly because, as their marketing guy said, it is optimized for use "with just a mouse!".My personal view is that I think anyone trying to fly aircraft in a flight simulator with a mouse is going to have a hard, frustrating, disappointing time... a Mouse just does not serve the manipulation of an aircraft's flight controls well at all..........a bit like learning to fish, using a rod taped to your head! ..... ok, that's a questionable example :( but you get the point!......... I would budget for a joystick and save up your money ........ FSX will be infinitely more enjoyable with one. :(

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Well,as the British say,"If you had bacon, you could have bacon and eggs, if you had eggs."Ron

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Everyone:This guy has posted various topics requesting of us to help (learn) him to fly a Boeing without prior knowledge of anything (and without a wish to learn). I suggest you stop feeding him. It's no use. Just look at his topics...One thing I can't abide, that's lazyness.And I agree with everyone: Flight is for you. But as you just want to fly a 737-800, I guess you are doomed anyhow.I'll repeat what someone above said: can't run before you walk.If this continues in the same manner (no, you are not learning aviation, you are making us learn you aviation), I think I'll start locking your topics, due to clogging with the useless content.

One thing I can't abide, that's lazyness.
Amen to that! If someone has legit questions, then fine-- but to hand hold? Nobody learns that way, you gotta earn your chops... That said...The 737 is moving too fast and events are to fluid to use a stinking mouse. OP, please run out and buy a joystick. Nothing fancy is needed and you should be able to get a working one off Ebay for a few dollars.

To be brutally honest, if you want to fly a B737 and land one even remotely realistically, then you will have to learn its systems and how to operate them. Lots of people, including myself, have offered you advice on what to do in order to achieve that, on at least two other forum threads now if memory serves. Posting a third, fourth or fifth topic asking the same question, in the hope that someone will tell you a magic trick which will mean you can somehow skip all the necessary learning, is not the solution.Heeding the advice which has already been offered by everyone on your preceding topics is what you need to do. And it should be obvious that this is what you need to do too, because if you have spent a month struggling and had no success, then that demonstrates the futility of not heeding the advice which everyone offered. If you had tried it the proper way, i.e. the way everyone has been offering assistance with, you would have pulled it off successfully by now. You still can do that, and if you do, you will find that it is a rewarding experience. Re-read your previous threads and try some of the advice people have already offered on those ones, because there is no magic wand we can wave which will learn it all for you, it is up to you to do that bit, by practicing.Al

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The 737 is moving too fast and events are to fluid to use a stinking mouse. OP, please run out and buy a joystick. Nothing fancy is needed and you should be able to get a working one off Ebay for a few dollars.
Erm... Sure you can do it with the mouse. Landed the CS737-200 just fine only a few hours ago with mouse and keyboard because I was too lazy to get out all the Saitek hardware for a quick test run. Then again, I had been flying with the mouse for at least 6 or 7 years prior to even beginning with a sim like MSFS...To the OP: I'm with the rest. Learn to walk before you run. In your case, you might wanna try crawling first before you start walking...

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I don't know what the OP's native language is, but whatever it is, I'm sure his command of written English is better than my command of writing would be in his native language. Just think about that before you make fun of someone guys.Al

Alan Bradbury

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I don't know what the OP's native language is, but whatever it is, I'm sure his command of written English is better than my command of writing would be in his native language. Just think about that before you make fun of someone guys.Al
Agreed. Being irritated by repeated "sophomoric" questions is one thing. Blatantly making fun at someone who obviously doesn't have a strong grasp of your language is another. The fellow could be 75 or 12 years old; we never know.

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Back in the 80's, I knew a guy who could fly FS1 and Gunship with just the keyboard. This was on a IBM 286 with a amber monitor. He could remember every keystroke, and every card played in a card game. I wouldn't try it with today's software.Dave

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Instead of buying new joy stick, I want to do all procedure with mouse and key boar
Its not possible to really fly FSX with mouse too well, I mean at same time you need to do other things like pulling switches and such, which you cant do when using mouse for moving yoke. And keyboard is just horrible, after years of flying FSX I cant fly it properly with mouse/keyboard.Simply, just first fly your plane to 2000 feet, then align with runway before ILS marking in map starts, and then descend & follow lights on the side of the runway start so that you have two white two red lights.Also before landing try, from fsx menu go to aircraft ,fuel and payload, and put your fuel down to 20% in every tank to get plane lighter and easier to land. Also you should put some amount of trim, but I use joystick buttons for that so I cant remember how you can do that by other than using mouse to move trim wheel.If you still cant land, its just lack of experience and practice. There is no magic tricks which would make you land it perfectly, no matter how many instructions we give you, if you lack all experience and basic feeling how plane performs you still cant do it.Really, if you want to fly with mouse/keyboard then you should just indeed go to Microsoft Flight. FSX is not for that really... And practice is essential, if you had spent all this time writing these topics practicing yourself you would probably be way ahead now. Myself when I was new I never asked for help about how to fly, I just did very many landings and takeoffs and learnt how plane performs myself.

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