For me anyway and my personal perspective. After going through everything to get this plane to fly well and it does that now quite well after the patches and all the credits to Bernt, it falls short in the cockpit layout. When you look down in the cockpit at the alignment with the seat to rudder pedals, it very off kilter. But the worst is when you go over to the right seat, I mean, that placement is just ridiculous. The rudder pedals are so far to the left of the seating you'd have to be rubber man to work them. I've seen this to some degree with other Carenado aircraft, but this just blows for me. I really love this aircraft too, but I have a thing for placement, graphically speaking. I realize for some, not an issue, but if your like me and you haven't noticed, just don't look! For me its back to the Dukey, as this can't be fixed without a total model overhaul.

Have you sat in a real King Air cockpit?

 

Real airplanes are not perfectly aligned... and pilots learn to adjust.

Bert Pieke, maybe your right, not sure. Your legs would normally be occupying that space so it could very well be. But it sure looks way out of wack to me on that right seat. But then again, to get this viewing perspective that the sim offers, you'd view the cockpit in quite a different way. Thanks for your reply though Bert. I have sat in few Kings, but never noticed. Maybe I was too caught up in the moment to look close enough.

He is right...

 

And its not just the King Air, the Lear 20 seres, Citation 500 series and the Piper Cheyenne are that way to some extent.

 

Infact in the Lear its so bad the pilots have a name for it, its called "Lear Foot"

Turns out the bug is a feature.

Oh boy, that is one serious complaint. Forgive the irony, but in the RW is not unusual to have this apparent fault in alignment. It is about fitting seats and pedals into a flight deck without straight lines.

Mcphail, I guess you didn't read the thread, it's already well explain. Talk about the need to restate the obvious.

Emcott, I believe Ian was saying that this is a complaint RW pilots have also. Having been lucky to have pilots in the family... particularly a brother who will fly anything with wings on it... Hanger chat always includes how awful so-in-so planes pedal placement is. I hazard to guess, planes with pointy noses are the worst. Seeing how manufactures advertise their safety engineering, one of the most important would be the pilots ability to steer and brake with pedals that allow the most leverage... at least you would think.

 

I'll be at AirVenture this year, and i will have a look at that in all the planes on display. It'll be kind of fun to play like a high roller, and tell a sales rep that, even though it has WiFi, 60 inch flat screens, electro dimming windows, leather interiors imported from the planet glaxtoe, I can't buy his plane because the rudder peddles would give me cramps.. :LMAO:

As I stated, I'm also a real world pilot, but as you've seen this in a different perspective, maybe I'm being a little too thin skinned. In my own defense, I have to admit, I just never noticed misalignment's to this degree in the aircraft I've flown. Like I said, I must have been too caught up in the moment of the cockpit to have noticed. If I had ever had the privilege to have owned a Kingair, then I'm certain i would have known this. You notice allot when your using a vacuum cleaner.

So you are LOOKING down at the pedals? I don't (sorry here fellow sim'rs) SEE the issue as I place my totally-movable USB rudder pedal controls where they work best for me and use them like my motorcar pedals, by feel!. I actually sat in the left seat of a King Air (B100) today for the first time and confirm that the RP are by no means nicely centered in the footwell. Of course in my garage I have a vintage '69 MGB sports car and the same holds true there with pedal placement.

 

Besides, you should train your view on your panel and then your mid-range destination. In over 7,200 hours I do not recall having looked at the pedals or footwell. Not even when I dropped a fast-food foam-plastic coffee cup.

What the hell are you going on about, give it a rest...............

 

Me? It seems to be you that is "off center" a bit here! Not trying to be inflam here, just, as others, pointing to real-world reality!

I think I am dealing with an inversion layer here!

With only a little alignment time I've made a screenshot to compare with pic from actual aircraft... doesn't look all that far off to me!

 

Zfehr... Now that's detective work!

 

On a side note fppilot.. I once drove a truck that had the brake peddle and gas peddle about a half inch apart from each other.. at the same hight! Took awhile to learn not to press BOTH when trying to stop... I often wondered if that set up contributed to any accidents. I'd be curious to know if any pilots had peddle trouble. I can imagine a bumpy strip, or grass field, or even bad weather, might make you lose your footing.... :Thinking:

 

Emcott.. easy friend! We're just having a discussion! As you can see.. your observation has lead us to some interesting aspects of cockpit design.

 

You notice allot when your using a vacuum cleaner.

 

Now that's a great line.