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I was about to go to bed (around midnite) when a Clandestine mission poped up on the job board. So what the heck, who needs sleep anyway. Very interesting, about 60 miles over open water at around 400 feet.

I got trimed up and the power settings pretty good but had to keep a sharp watch on it. Ony had one warning of another aircraft near by but held course with no further problems. Landed at a tiney dirt strip in the middle of nowhere and unloaded the "cargo" . Fun, will have to look for more.

 

Steve A

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400 feet! :Hypnotized: Just wait until you are busted! Either for what you are carrying or for flying too low! :LMAO:

 

Best regards.

Luis

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Clandestine missions are more fun than the average cargo mission. Lots more points too, especially if you fly them at night. (Although I usually stay closer to 600 feet myself.)

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Skim the treetops & wavetops for the ultimate thrill! A real test of your concentration and reflexes.

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Hold the phone....I've been collecting aerocaches, Exploring in free flight....but haven't done alot of actual jobs via job boards.

Now, I am becoming aware that there are such things as Clandestine missions?!?!?!? That's the coolest thing ever, and I can't wait to fly one.

Plus....there is AI present that must be avoided! Oh my lord, I gotta get out of work ASAP and head home and look into this.

Is it just clandestine missions that "pop-up" on job boards, or does the Flight team update normal cargo missions as well?

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Smuggling mystery cargo is my favorite job. Check the uncontrolled airports (magenta colored on the Map.) They are fairly uncommon to find, so keep looking.

 

And try to keep your distance, but don't look like you're keeping your distance. Fly casual.

 

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Is it just clandestine missions that "pop-up" on job boards, or does the Flight team update normal cargo missions as well?

 

They pop up on job boards but rather seldom... You have to look at all the airports without towers (the purple ones) and if you are lucky (very lucky) you may see one. (I stopped looking for them because it takes way too much clicking to find one... If I ever do. Apart from that: I fly without the destination marker and clandestine jobs are the ONLY jobs I like to have that marker on for...)

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Oh, come on... not ALL of them require finding a tiny little barely visible strip hacked out of the jungle!

 

I mainly fly the ones to larger uncontrolled airports like Dillingham, or the few tiny ones I know I can easily find.

 

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It took me a while to figure out that Clandestine Cargo missions were jobs and not a mission. For far the few that I have done haven't required any change of course on my part when I see another aircraft. I just fly straight on and he goes away lol.

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This is one of the issues on the big list that I hope gets looked at. Just throwing a 'jobs' option under free flight with some kind of filtering options would really improve the experience.

 

But even how it is now, I really like the clandestine cargo jobs. It's fun to plan a flight that takes you on an out-of-the-way path, or that takes you through some low valley or mountain passes to stay as low as possible.

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Just got above 500000XP and Level 20 flying one of those too :-)

 

I still couldn't get the "Round Earth Aerocache" though... :-(

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Book'em Dano !! lol

Well, after over 7 tons of Clandestine flights, I finally got nabbed today on a flight from Panda to Kapaula along the Southern coast of Molokai. It was the shortest clandestine flight I'd seen since starting them when I was @ level 9. Just under 40 nm. Didn't know what to expect when it happened. I was expecting a suspension of my pilots license or having my Maule impounded for a week. Turned out, you just get a message saying "Mission Failed".

Not to be deterred though, I quickly found another load from Lanai to Kaupulehu on the Big Island @ just under 80 nm. Flew this one at night (extra $$). The night flights are a bit of a hair-raiser landing on fields I can barely find during the day. Great fun though.

 

Regards, Jerry

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I just did one from Pepeekeo to Upolu, 41nm. Did it at midnight, following the coast around the big island about a mile out, 400 feet over the water, no exterior lights after takeoff until about 2 miles out from Upolu. Half a moon just above the horizon off the end of the runway, clouds "low and threatening", awesome.

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Set the clock for just before dawn (6:20AM, or so) and you will get the night points but arrive at the destination in the gathering dawn. The light helps for those back-woods strips.

 

I have had good luck flying at any altitude I choose (Usually 3,000 - 5,000 feet.) When the co-pilot sees an aircraft, I immeditally turn 90 degrees away from the other aircraft, fly the new heading for a few minutes, then turn back on course. Haven't been caught once since I started using this technique.

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OK.

So I found a clandestine mission. And I failed it, a few times.

First, my cargo was quite heavy, and I couldn't clear the dirt runway (forget which one) without dropping all but about 15% of my fuel.

I don't know...I was in the Maule, had my flaps up to 100% (which provides greater lift at low speeds with the compromise of enormous drag, is that correct?)

and still only barely cleared. Nail biter.

Then I didn't realize you could choose weather and time for these missions, so I was stuck in my last free flight choices. about 8pm and heavy fog. Yay.

I made it most of the way, skimming treetops that I could barely see because of the fog. John Q Law was hot on my tail for most of the 35km.

Then, only about 6km from my destination, I got busted. Straight to pilot prison for me. I wanted to alter course, but I had dumped most of my fuel prior to taking off, to be lighter.

One question....if I can choose time and conditions for clandestine missions, (that rhymed) is there a functional advantage in the sim for choosing night, or heavy fog? Does it actually make it harder to see you, and less likely to fail the mission via getting caught? Do you get more points? (these are all the same question, BTW)

Also, is there any other part of my post that raises any warning flag that I'm doing something wrong?

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You get a bunch more points for doing the mission at night, but (as far as I can tell) nothing for doing it in heavy weather. And to avoid the law, I fly 90 degrees off course for about the first 5 minutes, then parallel the course most of the way.

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Just did my first run, from Hanamaulu to Dillingham,

day time, over 16k xp !

Followed tips mentioned above, like taking 90 deg turns.

As mentioned, night time points, go to 'free flight' weather conditions, set to dawn, then turn clock back one hour, and it wil be 'seen' as night. extra points.

Make it clear weather for less stress.

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So, if flying at night doesn't affect your aircraft's visibility (by that I mean the security plane spotting and ID'ing you) then is there a tactical advantage of keeping your lights off?

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So, if flying at night doesn't affect your aircraft's visibility (by that I mean the security plane spotting and ID'ing you) then is there a tactical advantage of keeping your lights off?

 

In my experience it does not matter. I've used a technique similar to EastCoastGuy (only I deviate considerably less), and I have sometimes had the external lights on and sometimes off, but don't think I attracted any more attention when on. Maybe it matters during the night, never tried that. I do believe it's important to stay out of controlled airspace, that is not go within a few NMs of airports with towers, but I could be wrong.

 

BTW, have anyone ever escaped when the cops return the second time? Once, when flying clandestine from that tiny dirt strip NNW of Kona I got busted before I begun my takeoff roll :)

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BTW, have anyone ever escaped when the cops return the second time? Once, when flying clandestine from that tiny dirt strip NNW of Kona I got busted before I begun my takeoff roll :)

 

I could never escape once spotted, which I why I gave up on clandestine jobs. The first time I tried one I had no problem at all, and every time after that I got busted. It seems there are two events that may be triggered: one is your copilot spotting a plane in the distance (which I could never see), quickly followed by them saying that plane is gone.

 

The other trigger is when a patrol aircraft is much closer and can see you - the voice actor's lines are different in that case. They tell you to try to avoid the cops, but offer no hints as to how you might accomplish that. Flying low, in an aircraft that's much slower and less maneuverable than the cops' RV, you stand no chance. I've tried course changes, but no matter what I do, the cops get ever closer, and eventually it's "mission failed" every time. Really frustrating, you stand no chance once that trigger kicks in.

 

I could see no difference between day and night, and trying to hide in valleys between high hills didn't help at all.

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I have never heard of anyone ditching the cops, however I think it might be possible.

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I've done quite a few of these so far, and I have gotten the message of a plane nearby followed immediately by it disappearing probably 10 times. I've never even bothered to adjust my heading. Been lucky so far I guess!

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BTW, have anyone ever escaped when the cops return the second time? Once, when flying clandestine from that tiny dirt strip NNW of Kona I got busted before I begun my takeoff roll :)

 

Duh, I meant Kaupulehu, which is NNE of Kona...

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I swear... I've never even SEEN or HEARD from the cops on a clandestine mission.

 

I just stay under 1000ft AGL, and keep the destination point off to the left, or right, of the end of the horizontal crosshair until the co-pilot tells me it's safe to make my normal approach. Usually about 5nm from the destination.

 

Lights on, lights off, it doesn't seem to matter.

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I have never heard of anyone ditching the cops, however I think it might be possible.

 

Wohoo! I just outran them. I was flying a very short clandestine hop from Pahali to Kaalaiki (less than 40 nm) at night. When I was halfway the cops appeared really quickly, that is seconds from the first warning until they were over me. I immediately turned off all internal and external lights, and dived really steeply towards the sea. Luckily there was a cliff between me and the sea so I could overspeed ridiculously, exceeding 200 knots I believe. Once I reached the sea I followed the coastline, and noticed that the cops were no longer circling, but rather was flying directly towards the destination. So we were on the same course, about 3 nm apart. When I got to within 5 nm of the destination, the cops did not disappear, but continued to directly overfly the destination and continuing on the same course. What a thrill!

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