There are a few more operators like Etihad I think that fly it in to Sydney. But Air Mauritius use the A330 into YPPH. In fact it is very rare to see a 777 at YPPH these days. Melbourne? I don't know.

There are a few more operators like Etihad I think that fly it in to Sydney. But Air Mauritius use the A330 into YPPH. In fact it is very rare to see a 777 at YPPH these days. Melbourne? I don't know.

Yup, Etihad flies to Abu Dhabi.

Update:

 

 

747s price crash.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-13/boeing-747-prices-tumble-as-higher-fuel-costs-end-23-year-reign.html

 

"The move away from larger planes has curtailed sales of the A380 and the 747-8, according toRichard Aboulafia, vice president of the Teal Group, a Fairfax, Virginia forecaster. Airbus has sold 253 A380s. Boeing has orders for 106 747-8s, of which only 27 are for commercial passenger operations.

“The market for large aircraft in general is disappearing fast,” Aboulafia said. “Most of the 747-8 planes are cargo. There’s just a limited market.”"

Qantas has always had the business philosophy of sweating the assets - they get the most life they can out of each aircraft.

 

The 330s are good but only for the first half of the European journey, whatever the destination.

 

Emirates, Etihad and others use the 777 well, because it is better return than sending 747s into Perth, Brisbane and even Melbourne. And they can continue on into many European destinations.

 

The Qantas curse is that the 787 will be about 5 years late - that is crippling Qantas operations. And Qantas seems reluctant to lease a replacement in the meantime.

 

In August, my wife and I fly to London ex Brisbane, on Emirates 777 both legs; while on the return journey we get an A380 out of London, and a Triple 7 back to Brisbane. I am loyal to Qantas but not to the extent of an extra $3000 on the Business Class round trip. I'll raise my Scotch to you all - on each leg I promise before I lay me down to sleep.

Qantas has always had the business philosophy of sweating the assets - they get the most life they can out of each aircraft.

 

The 330s are good but only for the first half of the European journey, whatever the destination.

 

Emirates, Etihad and others use the 777 well, because it is better return than sending 747s into Perth, Brisbane and even Melbourne. And they can continue on into many European destinations.

 

The Qantas curse is that the 787 will be about 5 years late - that is crippling Qantas operations. And Qantas seems reluctant to lease a replacement in the meantime.

 

In August, my wife and I fly to London ex Brisbane, on Emirates 777 both legs; while on the return journey we get an A380 out of London, and a Triple 7 back to Brisbane. I am loyal to Qantas but not to the extent of an extra $3000 on the Business Class round trip. I'll raise my Scotch to you all - on each leg I promise before I lay me down to sleep.

 

My brother took Emirates to Europe Ian, and he was very surprised when they offered a choice of different whiskeys!!

 

I haven't taken Emirates yet, but they are close to Cathay Pacific, which is top notch service. Why take QANTAS even when the price is the same? Older aircraft and service that isn't comparable to EK or CPA.

 

I think QANTAS 'business' philosophy was because of all the old Government employees in there who had no idea how to run a business.

 

It is hard to fathom why QANTAS has the 767-300s running around without in seat entertainment.

 

JAL has a few of these a/c types (763) but they were in the same position as QANTAS last year. They needed a bailout from the Government and dumped all their 747s because they were too expensive(I think it was one of the conditions of the bailout). JAL and QANTAS have a lot in common.

Update:

 

 

747s price crash.

 

http://www.bloomberg...year-reign.html

 

"The move away from larger planes has curtailed sales of the A380 and the 747-8, according toRichard Aboulafia, vice president of the Teal Group, a Fairfax, Virginia forecaster. Airbus has sold 253 A380s. Boeing has orders for 106 747-8s, of which only 27 are for commercial passenger operations.

“The market for large aircraft in general is disappearing fast,” Aboulafia said. “Most of the 747-8 planes are cargo. There’s just a limited market.”"

 

Another thing that killed the pax 748 is that the A<380 managed to beat the old jumbo to the market way ahead and grabbing most of the sales. If the 748i was released first Airbus would've been in big trouble.

Hi Daniel: a selection of whiskies, that confirms my choice of airline is the correct one.

 

However Boeing is also at the heart of Qantas's problem - the appalling late arrival of the 787. That must have screwed up financial planning big-time.

 

And so is the restrictive legislation that it operates undere. I still think with good management a BA/Qantas merger would really have worked. And they could have put together a merged livery in the same way as the United/Continetal merger that still showed their national origins..

Hi Daniel: a selection of whiskies, that confirms my choice of airline is the correct one.

 

However Boeing is also at the heart of Qantas's problem - the appalling late arrival of the 787. That must have screwed up financial planning big-time.

 

And so is the restrictive legislation that it operates undere. I still think with good management a BA/Qantas merger would really have worked. And they could have put together a merged livery in the same way as the United/Continetal merger that still showed their national origins..

 

Or it could have gone the Ansett/Air New Zealand way :(

Can anyone tell me why there are only two non-stop flights from YMML to KLAX; QF A380 and VA 777. Or am I wrong on this?

Please dont quote any thing that Geoffrey Thomas says, this guy is a reporter and a reporter only, that some how sees him self qualified to comment on engineering practice's in Australia, he never does any research on his articles and are beyond incorrect, this guy has no experience in the aviation industry other than being a flight attendant for MMA back in the 70's, and claims to have predicted the collapse of Ansett 2 years before it happened, ive worked with several Ansett employees in my time at the airport, and right up until the last day they never saw it coming, he refuses to listen to people that offer to give him the right information, recently stating that Qantas are the only ones that have a no work policy during lighting storms, despite the fact that the CEO of Westralia Airports was on the radio stating that all ground handlers had walked off the apron due to safety concerns.

 

I dont feel that QF and EK will ever have an Alliance, EK and QF do not get on.

 

Regarding the 767's This all comes down to the late 787, Qantas had planned to give the first set of 787's to JQ, this was supposed to happen some time ago, the A332's would come back to Qantas, and the 767's would be out the door, this is why Qantas have not spent any money on bringing the 767's up to par with the A332's, and I dont blame them, Qantas is undergoing austerity measures at the moment, why would they waste money upgrading an aircraft they were meant to get rid off 3 years ago.

 

To correct come statements made by Daniel about operators.

 

777's rare into Perth? EK operate 2 a day, and SQ operate 3, Qatar will be operating 777's into Perth when they start up later this year, and NZ often sub the 767 on the AKL PER route, SQ often send in a 300ER to Perth, Cathay operate a mix of the A330 and A340 on the HKG PER route, Delta fly the 777 to YSSY.

 

Qantas would do a lot better if the government regulated the international routes, so INTL operates cant just do what they want, the most recent thing I have noticed at work is seeing SQ go from a 3x daily A333 on the PER SIN route to 3x 777-200, and the occasional 777-300ER, while Qantas have gone in the other direction, the 2x daily A333, has been reduced to a 2x daily A332, and in most cases the 2nd flight has been canceled, this is a obvious indication that QF are hurting on this route, I flew SQ to Singapore back in February and I paid a measly $570 return, for two people it was cheaper on SQ return, than for a single person on Qantas, im off to HKT in November, and again I have chosen SQ, for just $700 return!! this is almost half the price of QF, its pretty bad when Airline staff dont fly with the airline they work for....

 

Regards

Kirk

QANTAS just don't seem bothered with Perth, so much that they don't even have a lounge at the international terminal, unlike Singapore, emirates and virgin (through the use of singapores lounge).

 

Really !!! I have used it many times, its there............. airside

 

Cheers

 

TonyM

Perth has 4 lounges lounges in the departure lounge, EK SQ QF and MH all have lounges.

 

Regards

Kirk

Please dont quote any thing that Geoffrey Thomas says, this guy is a reporter and a reporter only, that some how sees him self qualified to comment on engineering practice's in Australia, he never does any research on his articles and are beyond incorrect, this guy has no experience in the aviation industry other than being a flight attendant for MMA back in the 70's, and claims to have predicted the collapse of Ansett 2 years before it happened, ive worked with several Ansett employees in my time at the airport, and right up until the last day they never saw it coming, he refuses to listen to people that offer to give him the right information, recently stating that Qantas are the only ones that have a no work policy during lighting storms, despite the fact that the CEO of Westralia Airports was on the radio stating that all ground handlers had walked off the apron due to safety concerns.

 

I dont feel that QF and EK will ever have an Alliance, EK and QF do not get on.

 

Regarding the 767's This all comes down to the late 787, Qantas had planned to give the first set of 787's to JQ, this was supposed to happen some time ago, the A332's would come back to Qantas, and the 767's would be out the door, this is why Qantas have not spent any money on bringing the 767's up to par with the A332's, and I dont blame them, Qantas is undergoing austerity measures at the moment, why would they waste money upgrading an aircraft they were meant to get rid off 3 years ago.

 

To correct come statements made by Daniel about operators.

 

777's rare into Perth? EK operate 2 a day, and SQ operate 3, Qatar will be operating 777's into Perth when they start up later this year, and NZ often sub the 767 on the AKL PER route, SQ often send in a 300ER to Perth, Cathay operate a mix of the A330 and A340 on the HKG PER route, Delta fly the 777 to YSSY.

 

Qantas would do a lot better if the government regulated the international routes, so INTL operates cant just do what they want, the most recent thing I have noticed at work is seeing SQ go from a 3x daily A333 on the PER SIN route to 3x 777-200, and the occasional 777-300ER, while Qantas have gone in the other direction, the 2x daily A333, has been reduced to a 2x daily A332, and in most cases the 2nd flight has been canceled, this is a obvious indication that QF are hurting on this route, I flew SQ to Singapore back in February and I paid a measly $570 return, for two people it was cheaper on SQ return, than for a single person on Qantas, im off to HKT in November, and again I have chosen SQ, for just $700 return!! this is almost half the price of QF, its pretty bad when Airline staff dont fly with the airline they work for....

 

Regards

Kirk

 

Sorry Kirk you are wrong.

 

Geoffrey Thomas is one of Australia's most renown journalists in aviation.

 

Your comments are pure bias and taken from your previous left leaning comments I can see clearly your position on things.

 

And anyone that wants to accuse me of knocking you ought to see what Geoff's reputation is because he is the expert on aviation in Australia. Now I listen to him and everything he says is correct.

 

If he has been wrong I am sure you would have said so, but you didn't.

 

I don't believe Geoff said that, but if I am wrong maybe you can correct me. I think he said it is due to Occupational Health and Safety that all workers do not work outside at the airport during lightning. This is well known.

 

To rebut your statement on Geoff:

http://australianavi...bout/our-staff/

 

If Australian Aviation has a 'poor reputation', then Elvis's music is bad!!!

 

Geoffrey Thomas

Airlines Editor

Geoffrey Thomas has been commentating on the airline industry for 35 years and as well as writing for Australian Aviation is the Aviation Editor of theWest Australian newspaper and author of five books on the industry.

Geoff first became engrossed in the industry as a young child, when his uncle who was a chief engineer with Trans Australian Airlines allowed him to scramble over DC-6Bs and Viscounts.

Some awards have come his way and Geoff was named Aerospace Journalist of the Year in the Best Systems and Technology category for 2002 and 2003 and he won Australasian Aviation Journalist of the Year awards for 2001 and 2002 and was runner-up in 2003. In all Geoff has won 17 international and Australasian awards. Geoff has also featured in a number of TV investigative documentaries and is a regular commentator on Australian TV and radio.

A low point was missing a flight in the Concorde because it clashed with his son Nick’s fifth birthday but a highlight was taking part in Boeing’s 777-200LR record setting world distance flight.

Geoffrey is a jeronlist and a jernolist only, he does not work in te industry, he does not hold a engineering qualification, he does not hold a pilots license, he is not an expert, e has won awards for jernolisim not aviation experience, every thin he writes is not his own knowledge, every one I work with or know in the industry hates him, and his grossly inaccurate reportings.

 

That fact that you choose I believe he is an expert shows how little your experience is in the industry, not to mention your inaccurate comments about a lounge in Perth, or 777 operators in Perth, with statements like that you have a job to look forward to as Geoffrey's apprentice.

 

State te facts and facts only.

 

Regards

Kirk

Who are you saying made inaccurate comments about a lounge in Perth? What are you talking about?

 

As far as your other comments go, I am just going to ignore you from now on.