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La Guardia is now Edo?

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I just had this very odd issue in FSX:

 

I selected La Guardia (KLGA) as the airport I wanted to fly from (VFR only, I just got a new GPU, so I was re-tweaking my CFG, and La Guardia is my baseline spot for "Benchmarking"). But in the FSX GUI, it says 'Edo' as the airport of origin. Oddly enough, restarting FSX had no effect.

 

Actually flying out of La Guardia a.k.a Edo was interesting too. I start off at La Guardia, but there is no airport building! It is almost as if the BGL was never there.

 

I have no addons for La Guardia--the only addon airports I have are KSFO and KRIC.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

EDIT: All of New York is gone....No KJFK, no Empire State, no anything. Only the bridges *seem* to be intact

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Edo is actually 4NY2 College Point NYC. A bunch of water runways just NE of Laguardia. Depending where you are parked at KLGA you could be inside 4NY2 area and it will show up like that in your logbook.

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Edo is actually 4NY2 College Point NYC. A bunch of water runways just NE of Laguardia. Depending where you are parked at KLGA you could be inside 4NY2 area and it will show up like that in your logbook.

 

I did not think of that one.....but that still doesn't explain my missing scenery :(

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Double check the scenery library maybe something got unchecked.

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EDO was a company that manufactured floats for sea planes and defense contracts in WW2. they were/are based in College Point NY just across Flushing bay from KLGA. It was started by Earl Dodge Osborn Hence the acronym (EDO.) Among other things they helped create LORAN (Long Range Navigation) and manufactured everything from fish finders to medical equipment and supplied other defense contrators.

 

My neighbor worked for them

 

Rob

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EDO floats are still around, currently being manufactured by Kenmore Air.

 

regards,

Joe

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Ok, as stupid as this may sound, for some reason, the scenery slider was all the way down to none. I have no clue WHAT happened with that.....but thanks for your help anyway!

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Reviving this old thread....

 

I purchased Drzewiecki's NY Airports X which includes KLGA - La Guardia.  As far as I know, everything was working fine previous to the installation.  If I disable the add on and go back to default, when I select "active runway" at La Guardia, what comes up is "Edo" and KLGA is not properly rendered in the sim.  If I choose a specific runway or gate, then all is well. 

 

Anyone know what's up here?  Did the add on package step on or remove some default bgl or info? 

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Same here...I ran a demo of Drzewiecki's NY Airports X which includes KLGA - removed it and now I have large brush looking plants on the runway!

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Hmmm...after posting on their forum, I found out that he adds bgls in scenery\world\scenery that are labeled with the airport identifier with ALT. Rename or remove those and your runway issues may be fixed.

 

I'm not educated enough on where the info for the location picker comes from, but something is messed up. It's unfortunate but the scenery is unusable to me with single digit fps, despite a cutting edge overclocked system. I also get OOM errors in about 30 sec, which do not happen with the Imaginesim KLGA and FSDT KJFK both enabled.

 

I should have done the trial first, but saw the package on sale and read good reviews.

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I concur. Just removed the AFX_KLGA_ALT.bgl from that directory and KLGA is back to normal. I suspect the other airport files following similar naming should also be removed if the product was removed and all should be fine.

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There are places at KLGA where you are closer to the Airport Reference Point for Edo than you are the Airport Reference Point for LGA.

 

Some parts of FSX use the closest ARP to tell FSX what airport you are at.

 

If you want to keep the addon you could edit Edo with ADEX and move the ARP as far from LGA as you can or at least outside of the LGA limit. ADE shows a red circle for each airports edit limit, 5000 meters from the ARP if I remember correctly.

 

You might need to change the Edo elevation  a bit to force ADE to create a "stub" afcad for ...\Scenery\World\scenery.

 

Or you could just move the ARP, compile the airport and place the ADE created afcad in ...\S\W\s.

 

Anytime you remove an addon you need to check ...\S\W\s for airport elevation .bgl files.

 

regards,

Joe

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N60JBravo...you are going way over my head. I am dev challenged.

 

What I'm experiencing is when I am selecting LGA from the free flight menu, I go to New York and La Guardia is in the list and when I select it with the default "active runway" it shows Edo. This is with all 3rd party LGA add ons disabled (or AFAIK disabled).

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I go to New York and La Guardia is in the list and when I select it with the default "active runway" it shows Edo

 

It shows Edo, is this while still in the Free Flight screen or after you actually load the flight?

 

If you go to  the airport selection screen, does 4NY2 show up as being in New York city or College Point?

 

Every airport has a reference point, a lat/lon address. FS uses this ARP, and your plane's proximity to it, for several purposes.

 

Here I have loaded up KLGA in Airport Designer X and placed my plane on the piano keys for runway 22. You can see by the guidelines I have drawn that I am closer to 4NY2's ARP than I am to KLGA's. For some purposes FS will see me at Edo, not LGA.

KLGA-Edo-1.jpg

 

Without moving my plane I have now loaded 4NY2 into ADEX. Interestingly ADE is showing a windsock at LGA even though I loaded Edo.

KLGA-Edo-2.jpg

 

Here I have zoomed out and you can see the test radii for all of the nearby airports, the red circles.

KLGA-Edo-3.jpg

 

My suggestion was to move the Edo ARP as far from LGA as you can, staying within the Edo test radius.

 

Realistically, moving it to somewhere in the black box where the water runways converge is a better idea.

 

Before doing that I would spend some more time looking at addons. If the default files were bad I would think more people would be seeing what you are seeing.

 

hope this helps.

 

regards,

Joe

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